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Saturday, April 07, 2018

Wrestlemania Weekend Thursday Cherry Picking: A Lot of Intergender Wrestling?

ER: So apparently it was somebody's idea to run a whole card of intergender wrestling matches, which sounds pretty terrible, but I like a bunch of people on the card so it's worth cherry picking to see if anyone actually made this problematic concept work. The major bonus that comes from writing these up, is if I hate the concept, it also makes me look like a hate women!

Matt Riddle vs. Deonna Purrazzo

ER: Well, Matt Riddle was not really able to make this concept work. The announcer is at least smart to say that Purrazzo's only advantage is the fact that Riddle has already faced Zack Sabre Jr. and Minoru Suzuki earlier in the day. What is not to her advantage is the fact that she is half the size of Matt Riddle. So we get a lot of Matt Riddle offense where it looks like he's pulling back a lot, and then you see him briefly sell strikes that don't look anywhere near the strikes people have already seen Riddle take earlier in the day. It's why the concept is problematic. There is a fleeting moment of intrigue, when Purrazzo lands on her feet after a Bro2Sleep attempt and stomps right on Riddle's bare foot, and is able to land some strikes and a nice running knee. But that was the only time she really did anything that could logically give her the advantage. A match based around her constantly attacking his feet could have been constructed smartly. Most of this match was her just trying to trade with Riddle, which is risible. Riddle ends up giving her a big powerbomb off a rana attempt (at about 70% strength) and flips her over right into a running knee. Kewl.

Timothy Thatcher vs. Toni Storm

ER: Well now, this also did not work. We get 8 minutes of Thatcher dominating Storm, 8 minutes of Thatcher not selling Storm's offense because it looks like the weakest offense he's taken in years, and then Storm hits a couple moves (one of which looked like Thatcher giving her the move) and won with a surprise armbar. The mat stuff at the beginning was the only engaging part, as Storm looked easily outgunned on the mat, but at least rolling is more interesting than standing strikes where one person hits 8x harder. Thatcher lifts her into a throw that she can't do anything about, then we get a lot of Storm hitting uppercuts that don't faze Thatcher, all ending with Thatcher landing one uppercut that she sells the same way each time: Falling down like Tim Sylvia. This happens a few times. Eventually she starts throwing headbutts, which look like she's repeatedly headbutting her own wrist, then hits a running one which looked like Thatcher hitting her with one (because him leaning into one of her headbutts looked harder than Storm hitting a headbutt). He generously goes over on a German, but it's not enough. She then catches him with an armbar after he goes for a pin, which is a little rich considering what we've all seen Riddle and Sabre and WALTER put him through.

ER: This was a bad idea, not only the show concept as a whole, but me attempting to watch it. I hope the people there watching it at 2:30 AM (!) enjoyed it more. These two matches were awkward, uncomfortable, condescending, and now I think I look like a jerk for criticizing them. Couldn't somebody just convince Fox to air another Man vs. Beast episode? Interspecies is far more interesting than intergender. Give me an orangutan challenging a sumo in tug-o-war or a giraffe racing a sprinter.

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Wrestlemania Weekend Thursday: Matt Riddle's Bloodsport

For those that don't know this was a no-ropes show with every match being submission or KO. It lost a little shine for me when Low-Ki canceled, but this is still full of guys I dig in a style I love

KTB vs. Dominic Garinni

PAS: Really fun short intro to this style. KTB isn't going to be comfortable exchanging holds with a Ju-Jitsu champion, but I did think he showed nice explosiveness on his takedowns, and I loved the little short jab he threw. Finish was really great with KTB dropping Dom with a jab and diving on him, only to get caught in a triangle choke for the tap. Cool flash finish, very Fujiwarish, which is a style that works well for Dominic, I really like him as a guy who can tap anyone, anytime.

Eddie Kingston vs. Tracy Williams

PAS: I liked this a lot too, Kingston is great as the unpolished guy who is just going to fight his way out of submissions with grit rather then technique. Williams is tying him up with leg locks and King is just looking for faces to punch.Told a very cool little story. I have no idea why Riddle was working as Eddie's second, but he is a great second. Neat finish with Kingston able to get to get to his feet, Williams runs right into a knee and King rocks him with shots and drops him with a backfist. Neat stuff and I need to track down their AIW match.

Martin Stone vs. Masada

PAS: First real miss of this show, they really should have thrown this out and had a fist fight, but they tried to grapple and that isn't up either guys alley. This was also marred by some really weird ref shit, Bryce Remsberg reffed half the matches, but the kid that was doing this match didn't seem to know what he was doing, he had a couple of weird standups, and seemed to stop the match early. Whole thing was kind of a mess and the referee didn't help

WALTER vs. Filthy Tom Lawlor

PAS: Kind of funny that the UFC guy versus the multiple time AMBITION guy was the least shooty of the matches on the show. This was just a stiff fight, with WALTER lacing Lawlor with chops and Lawlor firing back with shots. It had bodyslams and Tenryu jabs and not much grappling or submission attempts, and one point WALTER even ripped off Lawlors soft cast. Finish was great with WALTER just trying to pound his fist through Lawlor's chest and then locked on an arm trap sleeper hold.  I enjoyed this a bunch, crowd was really into it, although I would have liked to see them try to work a really shootstyle match.

ER: Hot damn this was a bank filled with money. This was a short match, just 8 minutes, but wasn't worked as a sprint with them rushing to fit everything in, and yet still seemed like a complete and total match due to the stiffness and selling and personalities of both. Lawlor is a big guy but looks small next to WALTER, and WALTER treats him small. This was a beatdown to start, with Lawlor attempting to trade but getting met with expectedly nasty chops and a smothering ground attack. Before long he's ripping off Lawlor's soft cast and starts slamming that freaking arm into the mat in the most violent disgusting way. My god, man. Lawlor's selling was great throughout and his comebacks really amped this up, knowing he was likely outgunned but not giving a damn, unflinching at the thought of going down in a blaze. I dug the Tenryu chop/jab comeback, and I flipped out for Riddle's superman punch. WALTER went down in a heap, and because Lawlor is the man he then even does the Roman Reigns shotgun to set up his next one...except WALTER chops him out of air to his doom and then levels him with a short arm clothesline. Toast. Lawlor throws a Hail Mary and rolls through a WALTER choke to set up an armbar, but it is fleeting. WALTER powerbombs out of it, pounds on Lawlor's chest like Donkey Kong, and locks on the most disgusting choke, trapping Lawlor's arm behind his own head while applying a sleeper. This match was huge, total war that was short without actually feeling like anything was left out. A real gem.

Chris Dickinson vs. Dan Severn

PAS: This was the most shootstyle of the matches so far, and I really enjoyed it. It was the story of Severn using his strength to ground and slow down Dickinson and Dickinson having some real explosion and aggression when he was on his feet. Loved Dickinson's kicks to the body and Severn kidney shots. Awesome spot where Severn caught Dickinsons high kick and took him down. Match was marred with another terrible ref spot, where Dickison was in the mount raining down elbows and the ref restarted them on their feet. This allowed Severn to catch Dickinson with a german and choke him out. Clearly the ref thing is some sort of angle, and it is a stinky one, show didn't need Tirantes and it is only making matches worse.

Nick Gage vs. Timothy Thatcher

PAS: Gage is over huge with the crowd, Gage is a bit hit and miss with me as a wrestler, but what a cool story his return has been. This was fun but a bit messy. I loved Thatcher chicken winging Gage out of the ring to the floor, it was cool that they kept all of the other matches in the ring, so this was a bigger deal. Similar story here that they had for Williams vs. Kingston, although this had more heat and some ringside brawling. I did think Gage needed to lay it in a bit more, for a deranged ex-convict, his stuff can be a little weak some times, I needed him to really smash Thatcher to buy the stoppage.

Matt Riddle vs. Minoru Suzuki

PAS: I really enjoyed this, and it was easily the match of the show. This felt like a big deal, Suzuki was super over and this was a main event match. All the early grappling was cool, and felt UWFIish, more then anything else on the show. Loved all of the leverage spots around the apron, such a clever use of the no ropes gimmick with the guy on top having the advantage some of the time, and then the guy on the floor being able to gain the upper hand. Also loved the finish with Suzuki really sinking in the choke and Riddle considering hurling them both to the floor, before thinking better of it and slamming Suzuki hard, but not hard enough, down on the mat. I am bummed about Low-Ki no showing, because that could have been really special, but this was a great last minute replacement

ER: Phil has been watching hot topic (because it's a hot topic online right now, not a show promoted by a bunch of doofs in Bullet Club shirts or something) all day and texting me about it, while I've been glued to my desk finishing up my yearly Fixed Asset Certification Reports. Much like with professional sports trades, we're better off evaluating them long after the fact and then deciding who had the better day. This was the first WM weekend show I watched and it was probably one of the most anticipated, and I imagine this delivered pretty much what people wanted and went as expected. The takedown defense of Suzuki is fun, and the grappling between the two of them is a gas, and you know we get some dueling kneebars that look like they would just snap my tibia. All my favorite stuff in the match happened around the apron. Since there were no ropes they were able to do some cool leverage spots with the apron, with Suzuki pulling guard for an advantage, but it quickly turning to a disadvantage when Riddle slipped off the apron and was now standing on the floor, hammering down on Suzuki's face and body. The other perfect apron spot was the end, when Suzuki had a backpack choke on Riddle and Riddle stumbled to the edge of the apron and threatened do plunge backwards off the side, instead dropping backwards into the ring before getting choked out (and turning purple in the process). Tons of fun moments here, like their lightning fast strike exchange that saw several limbs flying at once, the battle over a slow German suplex by Riddle (followed up by a big senton), Riddle calling out a fan for cheering Suzuki, pretty much all you wanted out of this match-up.


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