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Saturday, February 27, 2010

IWRG 1/28/10


Epidemia/Keshin Black vs Eragon/Guizmo

TKG: This was a complete ugly mess filled with blown spots and stupid ideas. Last time I saw Guizmo I conjectured that Keshin Black was the Black Thunder to Guizmo's Turbo: rudo expert at eating that particular tecnico's stuff. But they never match the two up in first two falls, match up for thirty second segment in third and a little bit near finish. And none of that looked good at all. Neither of these four guys is any good at brawling and this was match filled with almost nothing but brawling.

PAS: Yeah this was stinky, they do have an opening mat section, but you could obviously see Eragon feeding Keshin Black his limbs. I am blaming the rudos for this match, they have got to lead and deliver in a match set up like this and their stuff looked really bad, there was a corner clothesline section which was down right Arki Cannonesque.

Daga/Brazo Metalico Jr./Dinamic Black vs Gringo Loco/Hijo del Signo/Avisman

PAS: These midcard trios continue to deliver. Avisman and Brazo Metalico Jr. start out working the mat, and it is pretty clear that the Alvarado family train their offspring well. Basic trios structure for the first two falls with everyone looking good. Match falls slightly apart at the end, Dinamic Black starts the dive train with a totally sick in to out springboard somersault, but both Gringo Loco and Daga's dives kind of stink. Then Daga and Loco have an exchange which felt less lucha and more indyriffic. Lots of trapped leg falcon arrows. Still most of the match was very good, and I could even see other people liking the finish fine.

TKG: We actually get two primera caida technical pairings. Avisman v Brazo Jr was built around pinfalls with the arm drags and sub holds acting as extra spice, Avisman vs. Brazo Metalico on the other hand is all built around armdrags with the pinfalls and subs being the extra flavor. I expected I’d enjoy Avisman technical exchange but was shocked by how perfectly fine the Dinamic Black v Gringo Loco technical exchanges were. Second fall was Brazo Metalico Jr and Daga both winning exchanges with the rudos. Rudos take over after Gringo Loco makes Dinamic Black crotch himself doing one of his springboarding moves. I really like that Dinamic Black both is all about the Babe Rap type springboard move and also does the Rusty Riddle knocked off rope bump. His strength is also a vulnerability. Phil is right in that there was no reason for Daga or Gringo Loco to do their dives. “Two guys dive taking out the other two leaving one match up in the ring” is a formula that works. Everyone dives meant that everyone recovers before Daga and Gringo Loco have their match up and are left standing around like fools watching the final exchange.

Negro Navarro/Black Terry/Dr. Cerebro v. Solar/Sucida/Zatura

PAS: Great, great stuff. These are six of the greatest wrestlers in the world given some time to have a wrestling match. We start out with Solar v. Negro Navarro which is the best match up in wrestling today. They are playing a variation of the same notes, but this was less of an exhibition and more of a struggle. They didn't do the hold, release, hold style, things were being countered and reversed. The tapatia reversed into a tapatia was especially awesome looking. The youtube revolution has allowed us to see this match up a bunch in the last couple of years, that may be seen as a bit of a downside, but it is a weird criticism. They are traveling around the country and the world doing their thing, and they still mix it up a bunch. This isn't 80's WWE guys doing move for move replications of the same house show match, it is two maestros locked in a decade long battle of one upsmanship and I am eager to catch every installment. Next we get a long completely awesome Zatura v. Black Terry mat section, it may be the novelty of it, but this felt as good as the Navarro v. Solar section. They did a lot of battling in and out of leglocks which really felt like a Imanari fight, I also loved how Terry would use wrist locks to transition into throws. A singles match between those two would be unbelievable. The first fall ends with a really great speedy exchange between Suicida and Dr. Cerebro, with Segura flying all over the ring and Cerebro bumping like a king. Just an awesome first fall, as good as any opening caida I can ever remember seeing. Unfortunately the second and third falls were both about four minutes, good but really too abbreviated for this to truly be a classic. Both falls had great shit in them though. The second fall, had more Navarro v. Solar, with both guys jockeying for big throws. The third fall had Cerebro taking Suicida to the floor and beating the shit out him, it added a bit of violence to the artistry which was welcome. Honestly add three minutes to each fall and we have the match of the year, even as is, it is a beautiful piece of wrestling

TKG: Holy crap this was great. Solar and Navarro aren’t just guys exchanging technical holds but there is this real sense of escalation in their exchanges. They start off with arm drag exchanges which lead to arm locks and immobility knots which build into arm locks that can’t be reversed forcing rope breaks. From there they move into this amazing boxing in a phone booth section of mat wrestling (perhaps wrestling in a dumbwaiter) that transitions into both guys trying for ceiling stretches. Each of these sections is given its own weight and there is this real feeling of escalation to this whole exchange. This is followed up by Black Terry v Zatura, and I’m not a guy who particularly cares for shoot interviews and don’t believe in using them as source for actual facts. But listening to self aggrandizing stories told by professional liars gives you some insight into the value system of those liars (the values and morality of the stories). And watching Terry v Zatura after Solar v Navarro really reminded me of all the tales of shooters where there are two schools “yeah I’d stretch a guy see what he had, but I wasn’t a ripper those guys are assholes”. And you have this escalation from Solar v Navarro as pros stretching each other to Terry v Zatura “ripping” which leads into Cerebro and Suicida just wanting to beat each other up. Solar watches all this and goes “Oh this is how we’re going to play” and comes in and just goes at Navarro with added violence. Second fall we get a small little bit of Solar v Cerebro which ends with Solar doing a pretty cool deadlift into armdrag and backbreaker. I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth but it’s kind of a shame we don’t get to see some of the Solar matches where he isn’t paired opposite Navarro, one of the people who taped the Angelico v Navarro match showed clips of Solar’s match on the 1/21 show which looked fun. But it’s back to Solar v Navarro trading big throws. Third fall is all about Cerebro and Suicida having unfinished business. This match just keeps on building and building, and is easily the best thing I’ve seen thus far in 2010.

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