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Saturday, March 28, 2015

New Japan Pro Wrestling on AXS TV Episode 11 Workrate Report

1. Tetsuya Naito vs. Tomohiro Ishii (4/6/14)

Well hey this was pretty fun! It's still a bummer when they clip these matches as they aren't actually very good with their clip choices. They'll keep in fairly bland moments where you know there has to be better stuff in the 10 minutes they didn't show. Is their goal to show the best moments? Is it to capture the vibe of the match while eliminating the dead time? Because they don't do that. Part of the time they feel like they just play a few minutes, and then skip ahead to a different part of the match, with really clunky edits. Here they show Naito throwing a suplex off the top and then before Ishii practically lands we cut to Naito throwing a different suplex in a different part of the ring. But then other parts they are incredibly slow to edit, just showing guys lying around. If they're so obsessed with showing all the spots, then show them. I just don't get their goal. But anyway, the match was indeed fun. Naito threw out one of the very worst performances I've ever seen a few weeks back, and here he was very much palatable. He was actually able to move his facial muscles to appear to be showing some sort of...emotion? Ishii had a lot of great moments in here, and while Naito looked lousy with strikes a lot of the time, but damn did he eat a bunch of Ishii's offense really great. Maybe even too great. Great enough sometimes that I feared for his cranium. He got dumped HARD a couple times right on his head, after Ishii lariats. One was a great lariat from the top rope while Naito was on the apron, and Naito just folded in half, braining himself on the apron. Nasty. When I think of someone who makes offense look good, I'm not thinking of Naito. But here he was, and I appreciated it.

2. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi (4/6/14)

Wow, I really liked this. Like really, really liked this. Last week we saw their flat out dud from the Tokyo Dome show, so my expectations were lowered, but even if they were high I think this delivered. Alright, get it out of the way, Nakamura didn't totally sell the leg. I think he sold fatigue, and I think he sold damage, but he didn't overtly limp or anything, though I bought into it when he would clutch it after offense. Yes, there was certain offense that he did anyway, and that can sometimes really annoy me. But here it didn't. Sorry for the inconsistency. I was invested enough in each man in the match that the selling didn't really bug me at any point. Can't necessarily explain it, but still felt the match was killer. I really liked a LOT of Tanahashi's leg work, loved him snapping it over ropes and rails, bending it and stomping on it. Spots like Nak flying knee first into the rail were great, and Tanahashi was also a complete lunatic for taking some of Nak's brutal offense. Some of the Boma Ye's that Tanahashi took were just so so unkind. There was an incredible shot where the camera has Tanahashi in the foreground, and Nakamura runs straight at him (and this the camera) and just obliterates the back of his head with a Boma Ye. All of Nak's leaping front kicks were on point and nasty, and Tanahashi leaned right into all of them. At one point Tanahashi daintily slaps Nak with the tips of his fingers, and without missing a beat Nak punches him right in the fucking face and then caves in his eyeball with a Boma Ye. Both guys were on point during this, Tanahashi had great snap on a lot of his stuff, and fearlessly smashed into Nak's knees with a missed HFF. So yeah, I loved this shit, some of the selling be damned.


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Friday, March 27, 2015

SLL's All-Request Friday Night 3/27/2015

An unforeseen pasta emergency has abbreviated this week's edition of All-Request. Fortunately, the fact that I have a few other half-written reviews should mean a king-sized outing next week. Unfortunately, it only means I have this one completed this week...but it is a doozy of a match.

Kana vs. Meiko Satomura (Kana Pro, 2/25/2014)
Requested by donsem43

One of the most unusual and fascinating matches of last year, played under blue lights with Kana in one of the trippier wrestler get-ups this side of Alebrije and some dude jamming on a traditional Japanese string instrument throughout the whole match. Seriously, what's it's closest relative? That Jarrett/Mantell match with the percussion orchestra? Kana should be NXT's next hire as a dual worker/producer. I wanna see the weird shit she and Jimmy Jacobs come up with together.

First part of the match has the girls trying to match the trippy setting with equally trippy matwork. Meiko with the reverse figure four breaker? Kana chains the stretch muffler into an ankle lock? Is everything about this match delightfully weird? Eventually, we transition into the "Meiko killing the fuck out of people" phase of the match. Meiko, as always, is great at dishing out a beating, and Kana is great at eating a beating and sneaking in comebacks and hope spots, including a really big German suplex.

Uh oh, the music is getting intense! Their health bars must be low! Seriously, they've both been kicked to shit by this point in the match - even though Meiko has been the big aggressor, Kana has chipped away at her enough that you buy her being worn down, too. Meiko with the cartwheel that ends with her kicking a downed Kana in the head, because Meiko even makes cartwheels devastating. I am glancing at the index of nominees for PWO's Greatest Wrestler Ever project, and I'm noticing Meiko hasn't been nominated. I should probably amend that when I'm done writing this up. I have no idea what my ballot for something like that would like right now, but pretty much single-handedly making an otherwise dead genre of wrestling still somewhat worthwhile for 15 years seems like a resume worth considering for something like that.

They start fighting over sleepers. Manzerman is thrilled, I'm sure. In all seriousness, though, it's really well-done, the sleepers are impressively varied, and most of all, this is the rare three-act match where all three acts are very different from each other, but all seem to fit together regardless. In summary, you want all this.

NEXT WEEK: Los Thundercats vs. Monterrey Robocop. If that doesn't bring 'em back for more, I don't know what will.

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MLJ: Sin Salida 2010 Final: Maximo vs Taichi [cabellera vs cabellera]

2010-06-06 @ Arena México
Maximo vs Taichi [cabellera vs cabellera]

4:54 in


This is a fitting capstone for this mini project for a couple of reasons. I'm higher on Maximo than most people seem to be. That might be because it's refreshing to have so straightforward a tecnico in modern CMLL or it might just be my lack of seeing a lot of exoticos but he has a sort of physical confidence and spryness which combines with very dedicated character work. There's a reason he's always generally over with a crowd that tends to boo half the tecnicos.

He was also in one of the first matches I reviewed. There he was teaming with Porky. Here he has Porky as his corner man for an apuestas match and at that point I didn't even know their relationship. That was a little less than a year ago. Finally, maybe due to cuts, maybe due to my lack of language skills, I actually lost the flow of this match when watching it and I'm not entirely sure how Maximo won the segunda. So that's fun.

Fun's a good word to describe this match in general. Look, you know coming in you're not going to get an expert matwork demonstration and you're also not going to get a crazed bloody brawl. Maximo is fun. Taichi is crummy. At best what they were going to present was an enjoyable, story-based, character driven romp where Taichi got his comeuppance and lost that stupid mane he was always flicking around. That's pretty much what we got and I'm absolutely not going to complain.

The primera was straight to the point. Taichi (whose corner man was Okumura not surprisingly) came in aggressively with a double leg takedown and punches. Maximo ran circles around him for a minute before doing the same. Then he started to get cocky and tease and taunt him and ultimately, because he wasn't taking the match seriously enough, walked right into Taichi's lame looking Emerald Flowsion.

The segunda is a mystery to me. You'd expect Maximo to get beat up for a bit and then hit a roll up out of nowhere, which would lead to a reset to start the tercera. That's how these usually things go. I didn't see that. Instead, the comeback pretty much consisted of two topes, so we're going to be generous and say that Taichi was counted out during one of them. Ultimately, it doesn't matter, because this isn't the sort of match where there was a long beatdown and a meaningful comeback. Modern CMLL Apuestas matches are pretty much all tercera, though this did give the weird illusion of a segunda that felt like a tercera, until I figured out what was going on.

The point is, I liked the tercera. The selling didn't entirely feel earned, but it occurred after two pretty big tope suicidas (topes suicidas?), so in that regard quality overcame quantity. Taichi had the advantage for most of it, with a number of pretty good near falls. Nothing was overly complex but it really shouldn't have been. The biggest one was another flowsion too close to the ropes. Maximo finally started to fight back, hitting one of his multiple jump planchas into the ring, only to have Taichi pretty hilariously fake a foul off a near ref bump in order to score a roll up. That's how Maximo took Emilio Charles Jr.'s hair a few years before, btw. The fans were really into it.



I like it when Maximo turns on the physicality, as he's big enough to have just won the Heavyweight title, for instance and he did so here immediately thereafter with these boots.



There was one more roll up by Taichi but Maximo stood tall, hitting a powerbomb reversal for a fairly effective kill shot. You rarely see him do something like that, so it meant something when he did. For a match where I have no idea how the segunda ended, this was perfectly enjoyable for what it was. I'm not sure I'd main event a big show with it, but I'm not CMLL.

A Proud Papa: 

So much Glitter, so much Shame: 

Alright, so that's it for 2010. We're deeper into the Hechicero/Lucero feud on Monday and then the rest of the week is up in the air. I'm hoping to start delving into a comp, but we'll see. I have a lot of 90s Negro Casas to watch too before I start up with either the Mistico/Casas or more likely, the Rush/Terrible feud.

I think I will make a dash towards the Anniversary show in 2010 at some point later, though. There's enough going on that I still want to see more of it, and I'd like to do that with more Hector Garza. He was, and this is no exaggeration, one of the two or three most charismatic wrestlers I've ever seen. I think I got a little gif heavy by the end, but that's because his reactions to every little thing going on in the ring were worth capturing. I'm glad that I have so much of the rest of his career to watch and I'm sad that there won't be more to come, especially so this week, of cousre.

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Thursday, March 26, 2015

The internet gives and gives - Fiera vs Casas - 10/1/1993 - Cabellera v. Cabellera

1993-10-1 - CMLL - Cabellera v. Cabellera - Negro Casas v. La Fiera



So the incredibly generous boon to society who posted the Santico/Chicana match that Phil went nuts over (and those early 90s Mocho Cota matches that I wrote up a few months ago) followed it up today by posting the Fiera/Negro Casas hair match from the 60th Anniversary show in 93 that I badly wanted to see. It was the follow up to this Haku match: http://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2015/02/mlj-enter-king-haku-2-king-haku-la.html

And it is awesome. I'm taking a look at the Taichi vs Maximo hair match on Friday and I'm not going to give this one a full write up like I might otherwise because a) I've already written that up before I saw this and you can't even compare a modern mid-card CMLL hair match with a match from twenty years ago with guys like this. It's night and day and it'd make what I have to say about Maximo/Taichi in a match that I liked for what it was, ring real hollow. and b) I don't want to spoil too much for people.

Instead, I'll just say that it has so many of the elements that I love in a really heated match of this type. There is a violent assault by the rudo, including the sort of biting that it's hard to imagine out of Casas looking at him now with selling (of the nose!) to match and a hard fought tecnico comeback, so very earned, where the hope spots aren't about the momentum shifting so much as the violence subsiding for a brief moment. There's a revenge spot into the stands to cap it off and an awesome, triumphant German suplex to put on the exclamation point.

There's the intense revenge beating by the tecnico, the rudo getting his second wind and desperately fighting for his life, and winning back the moment. Casas' selling after he gets the advantage back in the segunda is so great. At one point he is just leaning with his bloody head on Fiera's back in the corner trying to get a breath so he can get an attack in before Fiera can recover.

And the tercera's maybe a few minutes shorter than I'd have liked, but full of the earned selling that you'd expect from a match like this, with one or two really brutal spots (including a shove down out of the corner, and a really great spinkick block into a kick), with the ultimate finish coming in a satisfying way from a spot that both Casas and Fiera had attempted to hit previously. The first one that managed it won the match.

Great stuff. (NOTE: The sound drops for a bit early on but it comes back later)

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Wednesday, March 25, 2015

MLJ: Sin Salida 2010 Set Up Bonus: Hijo del Fantasma, Máximo, Volador Jr. vs Ray Mendoza Jr., Shigeo Okumura, Taichi

2010-05-28 @ Arena México
Hijo del Fantasma, Máximo, Volador Jr. vs Ray Mendoza Jr., Shigeo Okumura, Taichi

3:37 in

Before going on to the Taichi vs Maximo hair match, I thought it made some sense to take a look at one of the matches that built it. This meant watching another Taichi match, but at least I knew it was going to be one with at least some heat built in. Frankly, half the reason I'm going forward with this match is that I want to see the jerk lose his hair. Apparently, at the time that wasn't a sure thing. Maximo had lost his last two apuestas matches (vs Texano, Jr. and Okumura) and Brazos weren't supposed to win the big ones anyway.

Speaking of losing a wager match, this had Ray Mendoza, Jr. to round out the rudos side. I've seen him sans mask once or twice on the journey I think. He (as Villano V) beat Blue Panther for his mask back in 2008 only to lose his own in 2009 to Ultimo Guerrero. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like a lot of the build to the 2008 match is online or else I'd do run through those matches because they sound like they were a lot of fun. On the other hand, we've got a few of the build to Villano V vs UG online, so maybe I'll do those at some point. It's just hard to get too excited for a payoff when its an apuestas match with UG.

Anyway, Mendoza is a guy who lost his mask at 46 or 47 and could have done okay from a charisma even if he had lost it years before. He's extremely emotive and great at stooging. He came out with a big sombrero and seemed pretty damn happy to be there. It still amuses me that the Japanese rudos come out to Du Hast. I really hate Volador's side tassles. enough about that.

Let me run it down quickly. This was structured to heat up the hair match. It went two falls, had double heat and two comebacks. The rudos charged the ring at the beginning of the match, had an energetic beat down, and then Maximo got to be the lynchpin in the comeback, being the only one to be able to charge back in and do some damage. He got beaten back but that allowed his partners to fly in. They hit double dives to set up Maximo vs Taichi and a rope-assisted roll up by Maximo.

The rudos came right back with a rudo-advantage reset that lasted most of the segunda. This had more hope spots including a solid Fantasma vs Mendoza chop off where Mendoza was channeling his inner Satanico with his stooging and then hitting great powerslam out of nowhere. Volador hit a dive to get himself and Okumura out of the match, and Maximo flew back in with his butt bump to pin Mendoza. They finished this with the Kiss of Death, really one of the most protected moves in CMLL, and Taichi completely no selling it to foul Maximo and then beat the crap out of him. Not the world's worst way to heat up the match while still having Maximo look strong.

This was slight but perfectly functional with enough character to make it enjoyable. Maybe I'm an easy audience or maybe it's just that I'm still in my first year of heavily watching this stuff, but that's pretty much all that I need to make me happy with a lucha trios. Obviously other elements (great, escalating matwork, a super comeback, violent brawling, tricked out armdrag sequences, etc) can be the difference between me being happy with a match and me thinking everyone needs to go out of their way to see it, but the baseline for me is whether or not the match accomplishes what it's supposed to, whether or not there's a sense of anticipation and payoff, and whether or not there's enough character to make the thing sing. This wasn't a masterpiece, but it did accomplish all of that.

GIFs:

Poor Kemonito:

Oof:

Dives in and out:

Pre- Powerslam:

Post Powerslam:

Best thing that Taichi's ever done?:


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Tuesday, March 24, 2015

THE MOTHERFUCKING INTERNET- Satanico v. Sangre Chicana 1983!!!

Satanico v. Sangre Chicana CMLL 9/24/83




I have a flight in the morning. I was about to go to bed when this bombshell drops on my youtube feed. If the date on this is correct this is not only the earliest Satanico match we have on tape, this is Sangre the day after taking MS1's hair in maybe the greatest wrestling match of all time, working a dramatic lucha title match. This isn't a TV match, it is filmed like a close up HH, possibly by an infant Black Terry Jr., we get some great close ups of the struggle in each hold, and when Satanico torches Chicana with a tope into a light poll, we get a close up at the glazed and bloody face of Chicana, it actually looks like his eye is swollen shut. The third fall was pretty dramatic with Chicana surviving several submissions before coming back and getting a revenge tope. Finish was a double pin, and a bit of a cop out, to what had the feel of a budding classic. We do get a couple of minutes of post match brawling which were as great as you might expect. Maybe a step below an absolute classic, but a hell of a late night treat.

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Monday, March 23, 2015

Pro Wrestling Revolution Workrate Report 3/14/15

1. Vinny Massaro vs. El Dinamita

This was billed as being from the 10/4/14 show in King City, but I couldn't find any actual record of this match taking place. It seems like it would have been earlier than that, as Vinny looked pretty flabby here, and when I saw him a week ago he looked fairly slim (for him). It's possible that he's done some hard work the last 5 months, but this fed has also pretended matches are from more recent cards before. Who knows. The match only goes about 5 minutes, and Dinamita looked really bad. Vinny always takes nice bumps and throws stiff strikes, but Dinamita looked sloppy and loose. Massaro is always really firm on things like shoulder blocks, but Dinamita kinda took a lot of this and he just throws weak chops, loose slams, attempted the Flair turnbuckle flip and didn't really pull it off, real ugly somersault senton, etc. No good. At one point Vinny did a spot where Dinamita tried to flip him into the ring from the apron (the old slingshot maneuver) but Vinny just let go of the ropes and slugged him. It made me feel all nostalgiac as the only guy I've ever seen do that was Mike Modest. I assume Modest trained Vinny in APW, and it's a great play on a traditionally silly wrestling spot, so I'm glad Vinny is keeping it alive. I know Mike was real proud of coming up with that one.

2. The Grappler III & The Grappler VI vs. Los Campesinos

The Grapplers even have trunks that say Grappler III and Grappler VI, and they're even billed as being from Portland. What a weird little in joke that none of the mostly hispanic crowd would understand. Grappler III is clearly Rik Luxury, not sure who the other guy is as he's larger than Luxury but similarly built. Los Campesinos are one of those "lucha" teams that PWR has that don't actually wrestle anything like lucha style. Instead of armdrags and playing to the crowd they do hammerlock go behinds and body slam exchanges. They're dressed like luchadors, like head to toe bodysuits and masks, but they wrestle like fucking Well Dunn. Every luchador in this fucking promotion wrestles like Rex King. It's like watching a bad southern tag under the guise of a bad lucha match. Oh shit there was a frog splash!? Why the hell do I watch this show!!??

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MLJ: Hechicero Spotlight 8: Hijo Del Centurion Negro, Rey Hechicero, Símbolo vs Black Spirit, Charles Lucero, Golden Boy

2013-07-21 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey
Hijo Del Centurion Negro, Rey Hechicero, Símbolo vs Black Spirit, Charles Lucero, Golden Boy


I've spent a number of weeks going through this exercise with both Cavernario and Hechicero and frankly, the results looked a lot better for Cavernario. That's not a fair comparison though. Almost all of Hechicero's problems in these years stem from his environment. His opponents were generally of a lower quality, though I have come to like Caifan a lot. He had less coaching, I imagine, less editing certainly, more freedom, and very likely, a crowd that demanded much of what he was giving them. It felt indy because it was indy. It felt unpolished because it wasn't being polished. Even when he was in matches with high level talents like Ultimo Guerrero and LA Park, they used the environment as an excuse for excess.

He was lauded in this period, even in the years before it, and I just haven't seen the matches to back that up. Yes, he had cool moves. Yes, he had cool matwork. Yes, he had a lot of attitude, even if he was stuck as a tecnico for more of these years than I'd expect, but he didn't always use the moves well, or hit the matwork smoothly. My only conclusion so far is that going to CMLL was a godsend for him because it constrained him in ways that improved his game immensely.

Something in my gut (and in the comments of reader Rah) says that might be inaccurate so I'm hoping this might just be the turning point instead. Maybe he only needed the right opponent, and that opponent might have just been Charles Lucero.

There's not a ton about Lucero online, not in English at least. He was fifty-four (and about to turn fifty-five) when this match took place. He was a local Monterrey wrestler and just looking at what I can find here, his big claim to fame was losing hte UWA World Welterweight Championship to El Hijo del Santo in 1990. He doesn't show up on cubsfan's match finder until 2000 as anything more than a blip. He definitely comes off as a maestro however and he's the foil for Hechicero that I was hoping we'd get in Blue Panther and that we might have were it not for wrong pairings.

The Hechicero vs Lucero matwork is the real deal.


That doesn't look like much necessarily, but it was looped organically from what came before, and Lucero went with it, making it work and then cycled out of it successfully. I've seen other guys stammer about. Hechicero doesn't have the ability to move people around that let's say Virus does, but that's counterbalanced by the fact he does absurdly complex things. So if he does have someone who's game, they can really make what they do interesting. They traded inverted deathlocks and this was just good stuff.


They ended it with a handshake.

After that the other pairings cycled in. Black Spirit and Hijo del Centuro Negro were fine when they kept it simple and focused on the arm. That was actually a good contrast to what came before. When they started to do something more advanced to follow the act they had to follow, it broke down a bit. This was cute though:


I didn't get a great sense of Simbolo or Golden Boy here, but they picked up the pace and it was all nice and balanced. Shortly thereafter, things broke down and they went to the finish of the fall, which had a lot of armdrags around the ring that could have been a bit more polished and submissions with the tecnicos on top.

Segunda had a reset and some switching of pairs, at least briefly, as Golden Boy got to face off against Hechicero. This was pretty rough though, with a fumbled roll up submission. Lucero, totally tossing away the handshake from before, chose this moment to come in and stomp and let the rudos be rudos (it was a mercy, really). He immediately had great intensity but I'm not sure I followed the character shift. This was a fun beatdown, with Irish whips down the ramp and plastic trash cans and what have you before the rudos locked in submissions. Golden Boy really drove his elbow in on an abdominal stretch which is always appreciated.

The Tercera had one of my favorite lucha tropes, the comeback that stems from the rudos getting too cocky and doing something completely ridiculous. In this case, it was a three man submission, complete with posing, that let Simbolo charge in and get them from behind. I was going to make a gif of this, but I can't quite get that to work right now. Here's a screenshot instead:


The comeback was loose and chaotic but more focused and effective than, let's say, the match with Parka and Ultimo Guerrero. It was heated in a good way with a few moments of payoff before Lucero scored a nice looking submission to set up the singles matches to come. This wasn't perfect by any means but it was on the more enjoyable scale of indy, where the lack of polish gave it, at times, a chaotic or organic feel. The Lucero vs Hechicero stuff definitely has me excited for their singles matches to come.

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Sunday, March 22, 2015

New Japan Pro Wrestling on AXS TV Episode 10 Workrate Report

I wrote up the first 8 episodes of this series, but had to skip last week's. The idea of sitting through one hour of TV dedicated to Okada vs. Naito seemed like unbearable torture. Both are clearly the worst two NJ guys, with Naito being one of the worst workers I've ever seen. A completely clueless man when it comes to pro wrestling. So I skipped it, for my own sanity and yours. None of you would have wanted to see two paragraphs of me having a shitty Friday night. Wait do you? I don't know. All I know is that I didn't want to watch it.

1. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi (1/4/14)

So this would have gotten an astronomical rating if I was only grading up through the entrances. Tanahashi comes out with old Megadeth and current weird anime guitarist Marty Friedman walking behind him up the ramp, shredding weird pop metal jams while Tanahashi mimes doing the same. Nakamura comes out with a bunch of strippers moving all funny, then when walking down the ramp he runs into an invisible door, finds the key to unlock it, bursts through said fake door and begins to do all sorts of red leather jacket Beat It moves down the rest of the rampway. Really jumped up a whole 'nother level with that shit.

And then the match started and it was clearly the worst of their recent matches, and not really a good match in general. For a Tokyo Dome main event this had zero big match feel. Tanahashi unconvincingly worked the knee, and Nakamura didn't even notice that was happening as it didn't slow him down for a second. Tanahashi got his ribs supposedly worked over but he didn't care too much about that either as it never made him stop for one second and think before hitting a few High Fly Flow variations. Some stuff looked good; I like Tanahashi's Cloverleaf, and while kind of goofy I liked the Styles Clash out of a Cloverleaf. Nakamura really had zero interest in selling the knee and Tanahashi kept insisting on going after that knee. Even after the match Josh Barnett was flipping out about Nakamura's tissue and ligament damage, "he may even have a couple of broken ribs!" all the while Nak is fucking moonwalking down the entrance ramp, not looking any differently than he did at the start of the match. This match was kind of a majorly aimless dud. Both guys are capable of much better.


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Saturday, March 21, 2015

Matt D: Obstinate? Resistant? Awful Human Being?

So the other day we began to analyze Matt's credibility, through the eyes of his complete and total disinterest in The Young Bucks. Now so far for Segunda Caida Matt has exclusively reviewed lucha libre, so his desire to never see a Young Bucks match shouldn't totally conflict with his credibility as it relates to him discussing Marco Corleone, and using his abs to pretend you're dialing a touchtone telephone. But Matt *did* use their name and *did* express his thoughts on them within wrestling, so it is only fair that his opinions be called into question, as he was the one who offered them.


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This match happened very recently, as in the last couple weeks. I really loved the beginning as the Dudleys circle the ring so the Bucks decide to do dives to start things off. We get some ringside brawling before rolling back in, and then the Bucks decide to have a competition to see who could throw the worst corner clothesline. They each do several, and every one of them looks atrocious. Nick's were worst, so he wins the competition. Congrats? Match itself was very disappointing. Nick Jackson especially looked bad (although I loved his full impact swanton at one point). I loved their superkick use in the Hardys rematch, always using it to immediately cut off momentum. Here it's used as almost a comedy spot (which I get the impression it normally is), as a prop for the Dudleys to no sell, and it's bizarre to me why a worker would go out of his way to make himself seem ineffective. Perhaps it's a huge testament to the Hardy Boys making the Bucks look so effective. It's not like they necessarily looked INeffective here, but it looked like they had no idea how to integrate their offense into a match, whereas in the Hardys match they clearly knew how to. Was this due to the Hardys expert match layout skills? Here again they do their great double team stuff tombstone, but again it's treated as a move to be kicked out of. It's the nastiest thing they do, but here's two matches where the person who took it is up and doing offense immediately after. If the move was played as a killshot I'm sure nobody would complain as it looks great. For whatever reason they seem to use it as a transition to opponent comeback. I did really love the finish, as 3D went into full "get the tables" mode, got tunnel vision and had to put the Bucks through a table, and when Bubba brought in a table the Bucks double super kicked it, pinning him underneath. Smart, logical finish that worked with the 3D match structure that's been established for years. Now, almost everything I liked about the Bucks in that Hardys match was gone here. There they were like a dickhead Rock n Roll Express, here they were too concerned with taking flip bumps on clotheslines and tossing out superkicks for yuks.

TWO SAMPLE MATT D CREDIBILITY:

After a sample size of TWO recent Young Bucks match, Matt still seems rather obstinate, but it also appears that his intuition may have given him good cause to be obstinate. We're going to need further research.

MATT: 1
BUCKS: 1

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