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Sunday, April 05, 2020

WrestleMania 36 Night 2 Live Blog

Big shoes to fill on Night 2, and if tonight is anywhere near as entertaining as Night 1 then I will be a happy camper. This does not have Gulak or Bryan on it, and it does have The Fiend, so the odds are stacked against Night 2. Still, I'm excited for the Brock match and weirdly excited for Otis/Dolph (because Otis is my boy).


Natalya vs. Liv Morgan

ER: This was good, but felt like it really needed Liv Morgan to make all of Natalya's stuff work. Natalya got to drive a lot of this with her offense, but I don't think her offense would have come off as well without Liv's selling. Liv's screaming and grunt selling was much better than Seth Rollins' weird pleasure moans, and I thought Liv worked sequences much tighter than some other Natalya opponents. Natalya has been working the exact same sequences for years now, so it's really easy to see what different opponents bring to a "Natalya match". Earlier this year when it was Asuka's turn, she chose to just beat the hell out of Natalya. Liv plays underdog and her roll ups all looked really tight and well placed throughout. She let Natalya work through her few pieces of offense (and I do like when it looks like Natalya really stomps vertebrae when she does her stepover to seated dropkick combo). I thought Liv's quick pins were peppered nicely throughout and I like the way she built to her finish. Nice opener, but after their high end performance in last month's Chamber match it's pretty messed up that Ruby Riott and Sarah Logan aren't on the show, but fucking TAMINA is.


Charlotte Flair vs. Rhea Ripley

ER: This is the brightest color I have ever seen on Ripley, but she pulls it off. And I thought the bulk of this match was great. I don't always love big match Charlotte, and just as I didn't like Kevin Owens' overproduced "How this for a WrestleMania moment?!" I didn't not like some of Charlotte's bad trash talk. But the work itself was super strong, especially every single attack Charlotte threw at Ripley's leg. Every pump kick, every awesome chop block, that nasty leg snap over the top rope, they all landed hard and the way Ripley sold them really made them even better. Ripley's leg buckling totally made this, as several of them looked like she was coming out of this with a torn ACL. I loved it. They held up extremely well on slo mo replays too, so maybe Charlotte was just trying to take out Ripley's knee. Ripley sold really well throughout, though she didn't seem to be laying into Charlotte to the same degree. Still, the stuff like her big dropkick to Charlotte's face worked well, and her short arm clotheslines looked and sounded great with the arena acoustics. And just like I thought Ripley's selling was good, Charlotte's selling off strikes was great. Early on Ripley kicked her while in a tree of woe and Charlotte was convincing enough to make me think she took an errant shot to the throat; later she got dropped in a pancake and Charlotte sold it like she chipped her veneers. The only thing that really hurt this for me was that Charlotte always wins, and from a storyline perspective it probably would have been better if Ripley had looked a little more dominant. Charlotte trashing her throughout for being a lesser champ and then just beating her fair and square doesn't leave a whole lot left to explore. Still, the work here was strong (even if it probably went a little long) and I probably nitpicked a bit much considering how much I loved all he stuff with Rhea's leg.


Aleister Black vs. Bobby Lashley

ER: Has Lana even been on TV since that abortion of an angle that everyone knew would be awful from miles away? Is there a reason these two are fighting or is this just one of those "getting people on the show" matches. Is Lashley a secret member of The Skulk and is trying to pay Black back for the Black Mass he laid on Leon Ruff a couple weeks ago? I could not get into this one, no matter how cool I thought Lashley looked in black and gold tights. This is a 2nd hour Raw match that showed up on WrestleMania for some reason. Lashley looked good, Black looked good, but it's weird something like this is on the show getting more time than something brilliant like Gulak/Cesaro.


Dolph Ziggler vs. Otis

ER: I've actually been into the Otis/Mandy stuff so this was one of the Night 2 matches I've been looking for. But I'm not sure how good of a friend Sonya is if she was trying to trick her friend into a relationship with Dolph Ziggler of all people. Sonya is the friend who would convince her Ted Bundy's car is a way quicker way home than the subway. One real annoying thing about Ziggler is that he wrestles every match the same, no matter the circumstances. He went for the same kind of layout here as he has in any other match this month, a guy who will go out and work the same match regardless of stakes. I liked all of the work from both, but outside of the actual involvement of Mandy and Sonya this didn't feel like they had been through any kind of personal drama. Dolph flew around nicely once Otis made his comeback, smashing his face into the middle buckle off a catapult, running hard into the buckles on Irish whips, and I loved Otis throwing him to the floor with a fallaway slam and smashing him with a great lariat. The finish was the easiest way to wrap this, and I had been wondering why Mandy wasn't out there from the beginning anyway. It was all pretty basic but the match itself just didn't feel like anything that was built to, and it should have. And if Otis has any doubts whether Mandy likes him or not, the fact she kissed him on the mouth during a pandemic should be a real confidence booster.


Edge vs. Randy Orton

ER: I had forgotten this was Last Man Standing and that makes me even less interested. It feels like the counts have gotten slower and slower on those, and it always takes me WAY out of a match when every time someone takes a back bump we get 15 seconds of paused action. Also, lol at Edge working a match with like three people at ringside, and not doing a quick check to make sure the guy who frequently hides to sneak attack people is not one of them. And just like the Boneyard Match was so insanely good and infinitely better than an actual in-ring Taker/Styles match would have been, THIS match would have benefitted from ANY other format. A 10 minute in ring match between them, with each doing the same spots they did in any of their matches 15 years ago, would have been so much better. Because folks, this was bad. And I thought it actually had some promise early on, because Randy was throwing hard right hands and Edge had a bunch of actually painful looking clubbing offense. But this whole thing weirdly played out like they were doing it all live, because you assume had it been taped in advance that this would have been edited down to at LEAST half the runtime. And the crazy thing is that you know this actually WAS edited. A group of people watched THIS and thought they had kept it tight enough. Which means that the original match was probably somehow EVEN LONGER. This came off like a joke brawl that they forgot to write jokes into, and the longer it went on the longer it felt like they were just playing a prank on anybody who actually works in the Performance Center. How many disinfectant wipes are going to be needed to clean off all the surfaces these sweaty germ machines are carrying? Also, the announcers have been yelling over everything on both nights and suddenly they decide this match to speak in hushed whispers, probably because drama and acting like this shouldn't be distracted from.

I actually like a LOT of the landings in this match, and thought Edge was throwing some of his best actual strikes. He was always a lousy striker, and here it looked like he was really battering Orton's chest and ribs. The problem is the stipulation lead to an abundance of moments that relied on the acting of both men, and Edge is one of the worst actors in wrestling history. The drama required to make a 30+ minute match work was not going to be found in Orlando this evening. And I typed all of this before the referee tried to reason with Orton. THAT right there might be the dumbest thing I've seen in wrestling. "Randy come on, he has a family!" Hey dummy, if either of them actually cared about their families they wouldn't have subjected them to any part of this match. This was abysmal, they didn't have nearly enough decent ideas to justify a match even half as long as this, and as predicted the Last Man Standing stip made a long match into Shoah. Every single person involved in the making and execution of this match made exclusively wrong choices.


Angel Garza/Austin Theory vs. Street Profits

ER: Another match that felt like a 2nd hour Raw match, nothing at stake, nothing that made this felt like it was a "big show" match. Garza hits a nice moonsault to the floor, Ford does a nice tope on hilo that was caught almost entirely by Dawkins, and I guess I'm wondering what Austin Theory was supposed to bring to this? If this past week has taught me one thing, it's that Austin Theory not only cannot catch a dive, but there's a chance he might not actually know what a dive is. I guess he can jump high? This would have been more interesting as a 6 man with Vega and Bianca added to the match itself.


Sasha Banks vs. Lacey Evans vs. Tamina vs. Naomi vs. Bayley

ER: Again, I must point out that Ruby Riott and Sarah Logan both actually looked great at Elimination Chamber and somehow they're not on the show but TAMINA is in the title picture. Matches with odd number participants always have an uphill battle, they easily could have just had Riott and Logan in this one and Tamina could have watched at home. Tamina is always put into these situations where she gets all her offense in one clump right up front, before everybody teams up to get rid of her, and they always do that because Tamina has somehow been on the roster for a DECADE and still gets crossed up doing one minute of offense. So this marks yet another time where they bring back Tamina, immediately insert her into a big match, but seemingly realize that she is still actually bad and get her out of there right away. It's easy a "what does she have on Vince?" joke, but it has to be something. It can't just be weird family murder cover-up loyalty, because we never got a decade of Deuce getting put into title matches. And Tamina was just one part of what made this not work. Nearly everyone in it was made to look like a chump: Naomi's great comeback reactions from earlier this year seem like a distant memory, Bayley retaining after she's already shown to be a completely uninteresting champ, Sasha loses at Mania again, etc. The only interesting thing was the interaction between Sasha and Bayley, I actually loved their moments of working together. Sasha coming back at the end to help Bayley in spite of getting eliminated by a nice Evans' Woman's Right. Also I watched this match after watching a feature length Edge movie, so now I'm just grumpy.


Firefly FunHouse

ER: This show has been terrible, I mean the attitude I had when watching Charlotte shoulder tackle feels like hours ago. This show desperately needed HUGE performances from this match and Brock/McIntyre, and seeing Bray Wyatt come up when your team is one out from elimination is the last thing you wanted to see. But then this match goes out and has their Travis Ishikawa in the 9th moment, and has the first actual creative and fun segment of The Fiend gimmick's lifespan. Cena being Luke Skywalker battling his demons on Dagobah was highly entertaining, and wonderfully different from the Boneyard Match. John Cena reliving his greatest failures and greatest successes was tremendous, and the editing of all the old footage integrated it was fantastic. John Cena whiffing on Ruthless Aggression punches, getting cricket sound effect reactions opposite his best rhymes, and him acting like a malfunctioning Ultimate Warrior robot on Saturday Night's Main Event were just some of the great moments, WWE improbably coming up with two outrageously entertaining cinematic matches on back to back nights. Seriously, John Cena doing lightning fast curls had me in stitches, and if they had smoke come out of his ears I probably would have howled. Just like the Boneyard Match, just think how lame this would have been as a straight match. Instead, this was awesome, and hey, it was a third the length of one of the worst segments in Mania history. I can't believe they did it, but they did it.


Drew McIntyre vs. Brock Lesnar

ER: This was a good moment for Drew, and it's cool that they're going through with it for him. He's been a good soldier and them getting behind him would be cool. And I love Brock, but I think he really needs a crowd to mock and feed off of. Brock crowds always react, even on the coldest shows. Brock gets noise, and Brock reacts great to noise. He's great at reading a room, and he's incredibly fun to watch which he reads a room, and this had no room. Brock has crafted several excellent and unique matches built around finisher spamming, but two guys trading finishers in an empty room just kind of feels like move practice after awhile. You need that reaction of shock, you need that excitement. When the whole story of the match is "It is shocking that this guy kicked out of this" over and over, you need to hear shock. I don't think this kind of match was going to work here, in this situation. I think this match probably would have worked really well with a stadium of people living and dying with it, and I wish I could have seen that version. This was just a longer Goldberg/Braun, and Brock can have a much better match than that.


Well this show was nowhere close to Night 1, and without THE FIEND match - of all things - it would have been one of the weakest cards of the past couples years. But the stupid Firefly FunHouse put a big smile on my face, and left me on the other side feeling positive about all of it. We endured whatever that Edge/Randy Orton match was, we slayed that dragon together. We experienced that shit together, and it was maybe the most united I've ever seen wrestling fans. And in 10 years, if one person tries to nostalgia gif us with "You know what match never got respect but was actually great" posts, that person will get collectively shouted down and humiliated by every person who lived through that in real time.


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5 Comments:

Blogger Yerfuneral said...

I rewatched the Boneyard match to try and see what all the online pundits saw in it. I still had issues because I didn't get the AJ Styles fighting a style I like. I had greater appreciation but still came across like a Andy Sidaris movie scene. Maybe if the druids were all bikini clad women would have appreciated the match on first watch more.

Its night 2 and think more of the matches with better build are here. We'll see how the payoffs pay off.

1) Natalya vs Liv Morgan

I was upset at first when realized Liv Morgan was Natalya's opponent. You had at least some ground work with Riott and Logan but don't think Morgan with those two would have been as good of a match. The journeymen skills of Natalya mixed really well with Morgan giving herself to be a stress doll punching bag with spurts of offense here and there.
It did come of like what I expected as maybe a Hart training session and kept waiting for Morgan to get stretched but they gave Morgan the win.
Not bad opener.

2) NXT Women's Title Match

Did WWE have something planned to cross promote with Wonder Woman 84? Ripley comes dressed out what I swear is an alternate costume for Diana Prince. I haven't seen the trailers for WW 84 but that's what it reminded me of based on my comic reading.
Early both seemed to have move balance issues like that early Riptide. You got two of the tallest women who rarely meet opponents with the balance points these two drinks of water have but that quickly went away.
I was disappointed with the result based on the field of ladies to be worked with in NXT but I get them wanting to up the star power in NXT for the Wednesday Night Wars.
The match wasn't flashy to wow but told in a believable way that I can't complain about.

3) Black vs Lashley

Like Elias vs Corbin we got something thrown together but didn't have the advantage of even a hint why these guys are fighting. It is like a Saturday morning wrestling main event match where you got JYD against Corporal Kirchner.
My hope was to get something close to Black vs Sullivan in NXT. Lashley not going to work that stiff though.
They cover for Lashley's loss with bad managerial advice from Lana. Maybe she needs her laptop or ipad back from when she was doing her version of Alexandra York.
Thought both were good but this was a good tv match not a good ppv match. Could have used a dose of fun but you can't do that with two of the more serious wrestlers.

Well saw both matches was looking forward to just finished watching Otis vs Ziggler. Will be back way later its close to Westworld time with the family.

8:33 PM  
Blogger Funkle Joe said...

If there's any moment that would have been awesome if the crowd was there, it was.otis/Ziggler. It's weird how his star faded from internet darling into guy noone gives two shits about. But it was all worth it for our boy Otis.

12:19 AM  
Blogger EricR said...

Joe I'm with you, I think Otis would have really thrived in front of a crowd. I think a crowd would have actually been really into it, as I think the story has actually been done well as far as those things go. Wish I could have seen that match. '


I was really into the Boneyard Match and the FireFly Funhouse, Martin, felt like a great use of WWE Films to do something actually interesting. I thought both cinematic matches blew past expectations, and both were totally different which feels like even more of an accomplishment.

2:07 AM  
Blogger Yerfuneral said...

4) Otis vs Ziggler

I think the last time I recall Ziggler on ppv was Goldberg spearing him over and over. The build up for this I would have been fine with a similar match this time around too. At least here would fit a purpose.
They also presented it in a way to let Otismania run more wild which is even better. Heavy Machinery are a breath of fresh air in a product that takes itself for the most part serious.
Sure I am mad to see another solid woman's team bite the dust but enjoyed the angle minus the control room take over thing. I kept waiting for the hooded stranger again when night 1 the show intro was being messed with.
I thought Sonya had something to do with it from the start but thought more towards playing up the angle they hinted at before the whole Otis thing started but to soon after the Morgan/Lana fail.
I guess we got some woman's matches and mixed tags coming our way.

5) Edge vs Orton (Last Man Standing)

All this match did was give me the idea I don't need to see about trying to maybe do the Performance Center Fan Experience thing in the future. Think we saw the whole Performance Center.
The last thing I wanted to see was Edge , first match back, and Orton being crash test dummies for however long this match was. I winced a lot like when Bryan went against Lesnar every time Bryan got suplexed.
Good build up but pay off was long and not what I wanted to see.
Also get the crowd back. I know in a real fight people make noises when they get hurt but there has been to many dog whining moments in these Mania matches and is getting on my nerves.

6) Raw Tag Title

The best part of this was Street Profits getting jumped after the match. Why Baszler, Kabuki Warriors, or any heels who lost didn't do something after the match didn't make sense to me.
I also almost forgot Street Profits were the Raw champs. Garza and Theory have been such recent call ups from NXT. That was one issue I had with this being the biggest of the shows and you had bunch of people who really haven't been on main roster shows. Not everyone follows NXT or they would get similar ratings to RAW.
This had some unfortunate changes and the change in format with big part of the show being archival you couldn't really showcase and build these newer wrestlers.

3:18 AM  
Blogger Yerfuneral said...

7) The 5 remaining in that last 6 pack on the store shelf challenge match for the Smackdown Women's Title

I guess this had it's little moments. Dana Brooke was unfortunately not missed. WWE had me almost convinced that Evans might win a main roster title before Baszler.
Evans has improved with her face change as a character but in the end this felt like was a way to appease the Evolution thing. If you just had Bayley in a single match you could complain the women's roster was unfairly left out of a Wrestlemania bonus with the elimination of the battle royale. Would have been nice to see a NXT lady or one of the other Florida resident ladies get Brookes slot but I guess was easier to just work with what they had without having to teach another woman the program from the beginning.

8) Cena vs Wyatt in a Firefly Funhouse match

This worked for me unlike the Boneyard Match. Yeah AJ isn't a parkour guy like Morrison but they stunted Styles to much and wasn't what I wanted as the match unfolded.
This from the start was just a straight mindf***. I knew and understood the history and it captured what Wyatt's opponents are meant to be feeling. This was never clearly presented to us before. We are just told so and so is changed because of the meeting. Here we got to actually see it.
This was David Lynch like experience. In the end it wasn't a match it was Southpaw Regional Wrestling on acid. That is a good thing.

9) WWE Title Match

I know McIntyre isn't a Styles of Daniel Bryan but was hoping for a return to something more than spam each others finishers with multiple count outs which it unfortunately was.
McIntyre unfortunately had his NXT run cut short because of injury and hope something similar doesn't happen here. I've liked his no nonsense return to WWE ranks and he has soldiered on during some weird book decisions but has proven to be dependable. Glad they are giving him some time to run with the title but unfortunate business times that hopefully won't hurt his chances at a decent reign. Please don't move into immediate feud with Rollins. After Styles boneyard match and Corbin losing to Elias. The RAW heel picture isn't the best. You could consider that he and Andrade have unfinished business from NXT but the Mysterio business is still being dealt with. Can't wait to see where they go in the future.

Night 2 had better build up for matches but this paled in comparison though everyone put their heart and soul into stuff and it came through.
The matches I cared about satisfied me but the stuff around them was good tv for most part. We got one needed title change but on the women's title side tonight the wrong women won their respective matches.
As an overall two night product it was pretty good. Turned out to be a bit of ying and a yang between the nights.
Would have loved to see more NXT participation but get better to save stuff for the Wednesday War.
Should they have postponed or do what they are doing with NXT peppering matches in the upcoming weeks? Probably but thank you to the performers and crew for doing this.

4:13 AM  

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