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Sunday, May 19, 2019

I Forgot WWE Money in the Bank Was Today Blog! 5/19/19

Got it in my head that this thing was happening next weekend, went on a nice jog during the breaks in the rain, hot shower, cozy pants, sitting down with coffee and Phil texts me if I'm gonna write up the PPV. Crap. I had been planning on watching a Death Wish sequel, a couple Beyond matches, and the Schitt's Creek finale I've been saving...but let's dive in blindly to Money in the Bank!

Daniel Bryan/Erick Rowan vs. The Usos

ER: Pretty genuinely surprised that this wound up on the pre-show. Now, I don't actually know what the rest of this card is (been only skimming through TV the past several weeks, and now that I'm watching it's more fun to just see what happens), so maybe it will knock my socks off! And this whole thing delivered the usually fun pre-show match quality, but with these guys it should have been way better than that. It was good, it was fun, but it really wasn't that much more fun than if we had gotten a Mojo Rawley/No Way Jose 8 minute match. The timing looked just slightly off throughout, things like one of the Usos leaping far out of the way to set up Bryan catching him in an armbar, or Bryan arriving at the edge of the ropes and having to wait a split second to be hit by the double superkick, Usos double splash finish looking ugly with both guys landing more on their feet than landing the splash, just felt like a lot of this was worked at 75%. There were cool moments - hard not to be with these guys - and Bryan pretty clearly looks like the best wrestler in the company right now. I liked Rowan catching both of the Usos on dives, thought each Uso took a nice big bump, but this underdelivered expectations from these four.

Naomi vs. Carmella vs. Nikki Cross vs. Mandy Rose vs. Ember Moon vs. Dana Brooke vs. Natalya vs. Bayley

ER: Everybody has new gear which is cool as I don't even remember people having notably cool new gear at Mania. Was their seamstress running behind? Naomi in the afro puffs and bumblebee look is fantastic, she pulls it off so well. I really, really love that gear and look on her. And Carmella is finally out of the Baywatch swimsuit and into a money two piece. This whole match is somewhat sloppy, a little disjointed, but they went for a ton of shit, tried out some cool new shit, and tried to be a little unique with the concept. Not all of the spots worked, some of them felt way too choreographed (stuff like Carmella holding the ladder too long waiting for Mandy to kick her knee out (and the extremely awkward aftermath of that spot, with Carmella weirdly shoving her away with one arm and saying "get away from meeeee" like they were two kids play fighting and one actually got hurt), or Dana Brooke reaching right over the briefcase to grab the rope because the spot was for her to swing from it, that stuff never looks good and I hate when we see the end of the sequence telegraphed by the process. But the painful stuff was painful and the cool stuff was cool. Mandy Rose took a couple big nasty bumps, one over the top to the apron to the floor, the other getting kicked off a ladder; Sonya Deville came in to fireman's carry Mandy up the ladder, and that looked awesome; Ember hit the Eclipse off a ladder into the ring, Nikki does a nice version of Finlay's ring skirt trap beatdown, Naomi took a painful as hell atomic drop bump on a ladder, Mandy ran up a set up ladder to hit a knee in the end, tons of cool stuff. Overall I thought it was too mapped out and a little messy, but it was an appropriate length, and fun! And Bayley could make for a fun title chaser.

Rey Mysterio vs. Samoa Joe

ER: Man are we ever gonna actually get a total badass match between these two? This is a genuine dream match and we've gotten a pointless Mania match, a rushed Raw match, and now an even more rushed PPV match. This was more angle than match, with Joe getting legit busted open by a shot and then getting pinned fairly quickly while his shoulder was nowhere close to the match. It's pretty lame to have them both wildly celebrating a late career Mysterio title win, while also getting thoughtful Michael Cole voice saying "You now Samoa Joe has a legitimate beef about that pin." This match needed Dominick to take a real shit kicking. Instead we got Cole saying weird things like "He's making Rey's teenage son watch his father get beat!" First, Mysterio's large ass adult son has to be in his 20s by now, old enough to foolishly run in to help his dad. We've had Miz's dad eat a beating, Dominick needs to get busted open. If you don't want to have Dominick eating a beating on the same show where that happened in a different feud, then what is the point of even debuting Dominick at this point? What we got of a match was fine, these two are nice dance partners, but we just didn't have the time to make it very interesting.

Shane McMahon vs. The Miz

ER: I really enjoyed their Mania match, thought the stunt spots were genuinely nutty and built too nicely. Having them fight in a cage kind of contains the stunt aspect more than I'd like, but they bring good energy to this. Shane is a fun stuntman, but here he shows that he's a fun cornered animal. I was fully expecting him to work a fully equal match, because for whatever reason Shane is always treated like an equal. But here he comes in playing desperate strategy, scrambling for escape any way he can. I do like the moments where he can't help himself but always pays for it, even if Miz catching him on the coast to coast was kind of awkward. Miz unleashing actual punishment was really good, with Cole calling him a sadist (which is a weird thing to have your announcer saying about your babyface who isn't doing a heel turn) as he beats Shane with a chair. I was hoping they'd end it like this, with Miz getting some revenge and dropping him face first on a chair. But they opted to go a pretty stupid route instead, as they apparently think the hot way to draw fans into this PPV is some refs making mistakes! The ref stops the match when Shane gets his foot on the ropes, even though it's a No DQ cage match. Two matches in a row where a ref mistake changes the outcome of a match is just stupid, uninteresting, and lazy. That Shane eventually wins the match by dropping to the floor, ensuring the feud continues, was not what I wanted. This started very promising but didn't go in a direction anybody could have wanted.

Tony Nese vs. Ariya Daivari

ER: Damn this feels like a couple deep cut guys on the roster to be getting PPV time. I don't really have the time to watch 205 Live, but damn what is the state of that program? Tony Nese really stinks. This whole thing is ice cold (possibly by design) and Nese doesn't help any one soul in the building get warm. His prepared combos are so sloppy and shitty looking, he runs through this awful high kick/kneelift, leg sweep, leg drop combo that is so slow, and manages to look shittier literally each step of the way through the combo. Daivari has a couple more interesting things than I remembered. I liked his jab and a couple of his cheapshots, but he doesn't have anything interesting enough to make the crowd care about Tony Nese. We do eventually get a Boring chant, and it's stupid but not undeserved. Nese doesn't deserve cheers for his shitty elbow exchanges and slow kicks, all delivered with absolutely zero personality. Nese is such a zilch. Fans at least make a little noise for his flip dive and 450, but I actually laughed when it got a kickout. These guys are going for This Is Awesome Please Don't Stop epic without earning one damn ounce of it. I hate it but I kind of love it. The finishing stretch was nonsensical and cut short right when they decided to do some silly kickouts. Really this whole thing showed that neither of these guys are anywhere close to deserving PPV time. This was outright bad.

Lacey Evans vs. Becky Lynch

ER: I really have not been into any of the Lacey Evans stuff we've gotten so far, so this is a decent chance for her to win me over. I think I'm still upset that we never got the culmination of this exact same run for Eva Marie. I wasn't expecting any good matches from that, but I got a genuine kick out of the Eva Maria stuff. And Lacey looks if not great, interesting. Her arm work was nice, whipping Becky's arm into the match, wrapping it around a post, stomping on the wrist, kneeing the elbow, all of those are cool things. She threw a hard elbowdrop to the stomach, overall a nice attack. The crowd doesn't really seem to buy into her game though, and it makes for some pretty quiet control segments. Perhaps worse, is that Lacey doesn't eat a babyface beating very well. She is really stiff - not in a cool strikes kind of way, stiff as in "kind of a lug" - who doesn't bump excitedly for explosive offense, kinda just clunks her way over on big dropkicks, and always seems just slightly out of position. The finishing sequence building to the Disarm-her was messy and unconvincing, with another bizarrely out of place ref leading to the sequence looking even uglier than it should have. Was this a case of "refs call it like a shoot and the shoulder wasn't down" or have they not been instructing the refs to act like it's a shoot for a decade? This whole PPV has felt both cursed and like a curse over the past hour.

Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte

ER: This could be a nice way to turn our misfortune around. This overall feud has had some unfortunate detours and misdirections, and has been a disappointment, but it still has high ceiling potential and it's always a possibility one of the matches could reach that ceiling. It doesn't really get to that ceiling, and is also kind of a dull mess. There were also several moments where one of them intentionally or unintentionally flinched out of the way of important strikes, so you got a few moments of sold strikes that ate a ton of air, including the kick that literally ended the match. That stuff is ugly as hell and the wrestlers need to be given the confidence to call audibles more often. The match didn't work to any interesting peak moments, was not memorable, and then it ALSO turns out it's even more of an angle than a match, as we get the full fan requested Bayley run in complete with her cashing in the briefcase.

Charlotte vs. Bayley

ER: This was at least memorable for the fans' legit large pop for the quick Bayley win. It would be a real kick if Bayley suddenly got a groundswell of support the way fans suddenly took to Kofi. I would love if the end result of all of this fairly botched Becky/Charlotte feud is Bayley becoming as popular as Becky was a year ago. Bayley running through the crowd was a genuinely fun moment.

Elias vs. Roman Reigns

ER: You guys I really don't like this PPV and I definitely would rather be listening to the angular guitar synth sounds of Jimmy Page while Paul Kersey takes down a sect of LA new wave gutter punks. I am starting to resent the PPV a little at this point. "Big Dog" Commentary Count: 3

AJ Styles vs. Seth Rollins

ER: This was not the match I was hoping for, when I was hoping for my luck to turn around. AJ has been a noticeable step down over the past year, and Rollins is arguably my least favorite guy on the roster. This just wasn't the match I wanted. It's a match that I'm very tired of. We haven't really seen these two in a match, but that's not what I'm mean, I mean that I'm tired of these Seth Rollins style fitness routine epics. This stuff is such soulless junk, I always wind up totally zoned out 5 minutes in. There were things that looked cool: AJ sets up a nutso piledriver off the apron and Rollins drops hard to his escape, Rollins hits his dive a little more recklessly (not as daintily) as he can, stuff like that. We get an actually AWESOME reverse suplex off the top, with Rollins whipping Styles with a low arc, making it look like AJ bounced right off his face. It was great and infinitely cooler than any other piece of Rollins' offense. So naturally it was used as a mid-match nearfall surprise. The missed and hit superkick tradeoffs look as silly and overdone as they usually look, and "The Beast Slayer! Looking to burn it down!" is so cringe that I don't even know if Manowar could make that sound cool. It certainly doesn't sound cool when describing Seth Rollins. This may have been a good version of "this match". It didn't go anywhere deep into overkill, even if I thought the layout was boring and predictable. That makes it at least an above average version of this match, but I'm tired of this song.

Lucha House Party vs. Lars Sullivan

ER: Pretty sure this match was booked as a Vince dogwhistle to trump showing he fully supports the burgeoning market of white guys with questionable tweets pushed too far and taking the matter of getting rid of brown people into his own hands.

Kevin Owens vs. Kofi Kingston

ER: I'm not expecting to really enjoy the "not against Daniel Bryan" portions of Kofi's title run, but we'll see. I don't have much skin in either of these guys, so it's tough for me to get into this, but they do well with the time they're given. Owens superkicking Kofi out of the sky on a big plancha to the floor looked cool, Owens took a big double stomp on the apron, Owens takes a big upside down bump in the corner and drops on his his, and more. This does continue the unfortunate trend of the night of every single match having an absolute dogshit do si do reversal sequence that looks like slow mo play fighting. Those sequences are really bugging me tonight, so things weren't perfect here. But it's probably the best match on the show since the MITB women's match, and that wasn't a particularly high bar.

Baron Corbin vs. Finn Balor vs. Ricochet vs. Andrade vs. Ali vs. Drew McIntyre vs. Randy Orton

ER: Within the first two minutes of this, Andrade takes a gorgeous Jerry bump, Ali gets backdropped on a table, Balor gets backdropped on a table, Ricochet hits a springboard 450 to the floor, and Ricochet gets backdropped on a table. This match feels like it knows it can definitively be the best of the night. They do a lot of big things here, and it consistently looks good and painful. Ali and Ricochet both eat backdrops onto ladders, and Andrade spectacularly springboard dropkicks Orton off a ladder. This has been a night where agents have laid out some real clunkers, so guys stepping in and having one of those fun WWE Heavyweight X Division matches is going to come off even better. WWE has a decent history of being able to do a "many guys chaining together offense" multiman, and this played like one of the good ones. Andrade hitting a sunset flip powerbomb on Finn off a ladder through another ladder - Andrade landing on his feet and Finn recoiling like a skinny kid getting bounced off a trampoline by two fat kids - was one of the most spectacular WWE spots of the last decade. That was WWE stealing the brilliant insanity from the Crazy Crusher vs. Hell Storm Canadian backyard ladder match. Ali, Balor, and Ricochet really sacrificed their backs for some cool moments tonight, all of them taking multiple back bumps onto ladders, onto the floor, and onto unbudging tables. Ricochet taking a mammoth hip toss from McIntyre, from the ring through a ladder set up at ringside really made this feel like we were getting an ECW match with 3 Spike Dudleys. Corbin is pretty good as modern Justin Credible, pushed cartoon rat faced heel who has been shaving his head for hairline reasons since late 20s getting a ton of go away heat. I would have preferred an actual finish with the guys involved, since really everybody here absolutely busted their ass and someone deserved some credit for that. But I also love Brock more than most people so I can't deny that I think he's a fun guy to be running around threatening to cash in briefcase. What an absolutely scary monster in the closet, knowing that Lesnar could run out at any time to potentially concuss someone! This match played a lot more like something you'd see on a dirty indy show, everyone taking some impressive risks and the fans really getting into it. This show desperately needed to go out on an exciting note, and this match delivered that.


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6 Comments:

Blogger Yerfuneral said...

I remembered the ppv was happening but had to watch it in bits and pieces because had family stuff and disregarded the plees to watch the nerd series finales, later, of Game of Thrones and Big Bang Theory (had to wait since it is a show I watch with my mom).

Tonight while watching the preshow I realized it is time to just stop watching the weekly shows. Preshow does enough to catch me up with out wasting 6 hours of my life every week.

The current format buries mid and low tier wrestlers, even worse, and those are the ones I care about. Besides the two MITB matches, the two women's title matches, and Shane vs Miz I didn't really know what was on the card off the top of my head. In other word's had no excitement and can't see what direction they are going.

When comic books get that way I drop them.

Events cancelled because of Saudi Arabia doesn't help. Not sure what the new Takeover date is just know it is not in California and don't think there is a proper WWE ppv again until July.

This is like a delayed comic book. It gives me a jumping off point. Not saying I am completely done but will be fast forwarding through the weekly tv shows for the foreseeable future and watching more older stuff like World Class and original ECW.

Hopefully with this delay they can get their ducks in a row.

End soapbox and on with the show......

1:11 AM  
Blogger Davey C said...

It's basically arguing semantics, but I accept rope breaks on pitfalls during No DQ matches. The stip means you can't lose the match by breaking the rules, not that there are no rules. The ref still has to try and uphold the rules.
So if a wrestler makes the ropes during a submission, the ref can count to 5 but there's no DQ if the hold isn't broken. With a pinfall, you can't be DQ'd for trying the pin with someone in the ropes, but the ref doesn't have to count it.

1:30 AM  
Blogger Yerfuneral said...

1) Smackdown Tag Title non-title match

Instead of this Wildcard thing and to protect your live business better just combine belts already.
While watching this match when it wasn't resized to run ads for the very show I am watching like TNN use to do with ECW I had to look up who were the RAW Tag champs cause forget it was the guys who buy toys on the WWE Youtube, Hawkins and Ryder.
I pat myself on the back guessing Rowan would be wearing Slipknot tonight. With the campaign this week being in full effect for the bands next album (new music video, appearance on Fallon) and the fact they are the current artist doing the NXT theme.
Notice didn't talk about the actual match well it turning out to be non-title, this being part of the lame wild card thing, and the insistent ads I stopped caring for this preshow match even though like all 4 of these guys.

2) Ladies MITB

Nikki Cross got some of the loudest pops but confused me coming out since she was back to her more of a wild card persona.
I was rooting for Mandy Rose since really the only one with a growing story line that I think could be fun was Rose. They keep teasing her and Deville breaking up; stupid with how lackluster the actual ladies tag scene is. Have Rose win and you have instant heat with Deville who gave her the spot.
I was simply convinced a face would win it because with Lynch as champ that would be their lame attempt to swerve everyone.
Big props to whoever leaked to Renee with the line about Naomi looking like a certain Titan in the comic books. Not sure if Honeybee is in the online show since been waiting to get the DC Universe stream until Swamp Thing is added which is the end of this month. That was my biggest mark out moment of the match though.
The match itself; like the other crazier female matches came off choreographed but fun. It at least kept me guessing through out and didn't have to many false and slow climbs up the ladder. Every woman did well. Was rooting for Ember Moon by the end but felt everyone looked strong.

3) US Title match

With 13 matches on the card going to have a few of those overly short matches. Why it keeps being Mysterio and Samoa Joe; I don't know.
Samoa Joe has been one of the better performers since I started watching wrestling again. Mysterio is a legend. We have had better matches on free tv and Andrade added involvement made for some of the best recent matches.
If this was the planned booking why not have this on the preshow?

4) Cage match: Shane McMahon vs The Miz

I see a graphic running on Instagram about how Shane has been on ppv more than a great number of superstars.
Super Shane Osbourne I will say again is great with an appearance here and there but I am way tired of him and unfortunately this match ended in a way that this feud can't be over and if I remember right we had no blood yet again in a cage match but we had it in US Title match and at least one other match later in the card. I am still finishing this card up as I type this. I am on the WWE Title match at this moment.
These purposely violent specialty matches were to build on or end blood feuds not for what turned out to be pretty much a match of cat and mouse.

1:51 AM  
Blogger Yerfuneral said...

5) WWE Cruiserweight Title Match

Can't have it in the preshow every ppv card so was guessing that some major title match would be next.
Nese and Daivari unfortunately coming out thought the same things that have me giving up on the first episode of NXT UK. Not their fault but just don't have the time to learn new characters.
Unfortunately this match was nothing special it didn't win me over like previous cruiserweight matches in the preshow. They easily could have been told not to go out there and wow but they should have put on a better showcase.

6) Raw Womens Title Match

The hype package did wonders cause all I remember was Evans walking to the ring not actually wrestling this whole time.
The crowd I felt was actually hyped through the match and those loudest on the internet are very wrong as Lynch is still very over and even though she has been pretty much a talking head for months it hasn't hurt her. Maybe we don't need these pointless random tag and non-title matches on the regular show.
Like Evans since her heel turn but if she hasn't been wrestling on the house show circuit we definitely got proof you can't leave especially a green wrestler not doing anything for months.
To hit on Eric's ref thing. There was some weird ref thing and it wasn't just this match. With supposed fining of the Lynch/Rousey ref and some of the happenings tonight are they building to some weird ref story line.

7) Smackdown Womens Title match part 1

Following up Lynch's first match right away was a weird decision but at least we didn't get a break to have a McMahon come out to announce the match. It was actually kind of understandable before with got to increase the odds against Rousey cause of what she had done to Stephanie but messed it up by making it all about Becky.
I am still mad that as far as I can remember Asuka didn't get a rematch but she has been moved to the tag picture but with how small the picture is for all the women's titles you do need some pulling double duty to make things more interesting or give Ember Moon, Dana Brooke, Mandy Rose, and other a chance to play but with this wild card thing going on with the shows you kill such opportunities.
I give Lynch all the props in the world for what she has done but I am guessing this wasn't a choreographed thing that the better matches between these two clearly were. Didn't think this was the worst match there was one ppv match was worse but at this point should come off like a total blood feud and it was nowhere near that level.
Was happy about Charlotte win because heels are more interesting as champs in my opinion but we are in an era of slipping ratings and network heads worried so we get.....

8) Smackdown Womens title part II

a MITB cash in.
I was enjoying the post match beatdown by Charlotte and Evans. Looking at them would make a great looking tag team and maybe an improved version of the Charlotte/Brooks angle that I was enjoying when first got back into wrestling.
I like the having a lackey thing helps give a rub to upcoming talent and doesn't feel like random tag team.
Instead we get a slightly out of character moment with Bayley turning in her briefcase on a clearly out of it Flair and creating something the fans think they want. At least verbiage used in recent Bayley matches including the MITB match has hinted that Bayley isn't exactly the goodie goodie and something is burning behind her eyes.
Unfortunately it feels like WWE feels the best approach to rebuild ratings and prepare for the impeding competition is to buy into fan fiction and not properly build towards it very much like a certain show that had its series finale tonight.

2:49 AM  
Blogger Yerfuneral said...

9) Reigns vs Elias

I guess I should be happy that Elias is getting the rub of working with the big dogs in the company Cena, Undertaker, and now Reigns but Elias should be more than a jobber to the stars. He should be in that Intercontinental belt picture at least but he gets to make an appearance as a punching bag once again.
I mean Reigns is Superman so you properly had him take Elias out fast but Stroman was clearly Doomsday and other then local jobbers wasn't given a script anywhere close to this.

10) Universal Title Match

Unfortunately no matter the build up to Rollins eventually having that knee problem he has every ppv I can't enjoy the match cause it is pretty much scripted that the match is going there. They have swerved whether Rollins will win or not but they don't script or Rollins doesn't show the same flare as some of those gauntlet and long matches he has been given on free tv.
Styles is one of the few main event guys I like but the Orton and build of for this match have been so lackluster I have been forgetting Styles actually has a match on the ppv. You can't continuously have a build like the Samoa Joe matches but you were looking forward to a series of matches between Styles and whoever. Like Orton I am hoping this is a quick move on to something else but what really is there on RAW? Ricochet to soon and essentially both are faces. Way booking has been of late likely will be Corbin next.
Styles can clearly be a wildcard though but if they don't want to go that root maybe do some building towards a heel and maybe a run with Balor over Intercontinental title for some Bullet Club thing for internet to cream over.

11) Lucha House Party vs Lars Sullivan

Lars messing with legends I can get behind to build up the character.
Lars messing up essentially nobodies on a ppv? Unnecessary to be on the bill. It's nothing more than a number to make the announced 12 matches seem stacked.

12) WWE Title match

How I forgot this was on the card I don't know. I liked the whole replacement New Day member thing. Predictable but fun because Owens knows how to be a character and play his role. Like the shouting at the clapping fans during the match.
I like building Kofi up with a bigger guy opponent. As a booker would have went with Ali cause of Kofi taking over his spot and a quicker style match more in the style I am use to seeing Kofi because he is more of the speed guy in the New Day tag matches.
This was probably my favorite singles match of the night.

3:39 AM  
Blogger Yerfuneral said...

13) Men's MITB

Wow. This ruled until the ending. At points this came off more like a ladders, tables, and chair match. It flowed so much better than the ladies with stuff not feeling as paused for set up or choreographed. Everyone pretty much put their bodies on the line and Corbin win teases came off good.
Definitely smart at moving Stroman out, who would have been a body in the way, and not having a recently returned Zayn risk getting injured again. We don't need another Bliss situation and would have just been worrying about him the whole time like I was about Fish and Dunne in the NXT War Games match.
Brock unfortunately just comes across as a sad move to get headlines in the sports page and get people talking. I get it the casuals are moving on but that is my problem WWE is grabbing at anything and everything like the wild card think, jumping up NXT talent out of nowhere, building cards of to many matches to give a Wrestlemania feel when your non big 4 ppvs should have 5 or 6 solid matches like NXT Takeover's, and relying to much on over talent and not giving the lesser talent to try and do something.
You got talent wanting to leave and supposed bad moral backstage. I get most of the main event peeps are not my cup of tea but people want a chance. Some people are starting to get chances with returns and showcasing on NXT. This is great.
Bringing Brock back up isn't worth it if his schedule is just as bad as last time. Paying guys big money for some one off appearances in glorified house shows are band-aids that are really leeches. Give guys a chance. Some are going to be band-aids that don't stick while some will be casts that stick hopefully around as long as Bob Orton's but they need a chance not left in the first aid kit by the door.

Pretty poor ppv. The matches behind the ppv name were ace but the rest were nothing matches or continue to build story lines that are on life support. Time to pull the plug.

3:40 AM  

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