1995: UWF-I Can Love You Like That, Vader

Super Vader vs. Gary Albright  UWF-I 1/16/95

ER: The biggest dudes in UWF-I finally square off one on one, but the crowd didn't react in the same swelling and crazed manner they did during the Vader/Albright tag team face offs of a few months prior. Perhaps the match these two chose to work was not the match this large crowd wanted to see. Perhaps they were burnt out after a long evening of pro wrestling. Perhaps there needed to be a native in the match to get their very best reaction. And the match is a bit of a disappointment compared to what we've seen from Vader's UWF-I run, and compared to Albright & Vader's interactions in those two tag matches. In a bubble, unaware that Vader had no other matches in UWF-I and no other interaction with Albright, it is still plenty of fun. Let out of that hypothetical and yet stifling bubble, you would notice that it did not have quite the same drama of Vader's big main event title matches, and didn't have the same electricity as their tag match showdowns. It's still plenty of fun, I mean it's two hosses squaring off, what could be bad? 

Albright works a lot of the match to bully Vader into the ropes and work for control, but Vader works some rope a dope and appears to try to gas Albright out. Albright keeps bulling him around the ring, landing strikes when he can, some hard elbows rights and body shot lefts, and Vader sells his stomach better than maybe anyone. Albright lands a shot around the pancreas and Vader slumps into the ropes holding that big gut, moaning in pain. Albright is smart to try tying Vader up, working for underhooks, and the biggest moment comes when Albright gets a huge belly to belly. I didn't think he'd be able to, as his grip didn't look right, but I forget that Albright is the greatest suplex wrestling in history so he flings Vader as easy as he could fling anyone, then works for an armbar. The ground work could have been more engaging, and maybe that turned the crowd off a bit, as Vader is much more about working for chokes in this match than pummeling, and it's like the crowd didn't really know who to cheer for. It's still fun, though much more anticlimactic than Vader's other UWF-I matches, and Albright's.

Super Vader vs. Nobuhiko Takada  UWF-I 4/20/95

ER: Our trip down Vader's cool UWF-I history comes to a close with a fun, if underwhelming, match against UWF's big star, in front of merely a fraction of the people who were there for their first match against each other two years prior. The buzz had clearly died way down by this point, and those 1993 Vader in UWF-I matches had a constant buzz and inarguable energy to them that was missing here. Vader himself seemed almost bored at points during these later matches, whereas in '93 he felt absolutely vital to the brand. If this was our only instance of Vader vs. Takada in UWF-I, it would come off better, but compared to the prior matches this (and the Albright match) felt like a house show touring match between the two. Vader bumps over the top to the floor off a kick right at the start of the match, but things feel a little listless at points after. Vader tones down the striking compared to earlier matches, instead concentrating on chokeslams or powerbombs, and whenever he lands one of those Takada always spills out in nasty ways, taking a powerbomb on his shoulder and getting folded roughly on a chokeslam. Takada targeted Vader with a bunch of cool leg kicks, all looked really precise and he wisely sticks and moves, but Vader also just comes off way less aggressive here. In other matches, guys weren't really allowed to stick and move, Vader would just maul them. Here there isn't always a ton of life to what's happening. Takada's leg strikes look good, and there was a great moment when Vader literally howls in pain from them, and I liked how Takada would move up the body with kicks as Vader would be going down. Takada's final attack was good, he came storming  out of the corner practically shoving past the ref, snuck in a punch, threw a ton of kicks, and the fans got really excited when Vader got down and didn't get up too quick, counting along with the 10 count. It was a good enough match to go out on, and Takada gave a great emotional performance, but the bloom was off the rose at this point.


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1994: UWF-I'll Make Love to You, Vader

Super Vader/John Tenta vs. Gary Albright/Kazuo Yamazaki  UWF-I 10/8/94

ER: Crowd was intensely hot for Albright vs. Vader, and they know exactly how to tease them, starting with a big pull apart to start and then not seeing those two actually square off until we're 2/3 through this thing. It's fun seeing Tenta on the mat, as it's a total fish out of water situation. He doesn't look like he can really do a whole lot there, but he's enormous, so it creates a ton of fun visuals. At one point he's clasping his hands around nothing, and keeping his hands together for reasons I couldn't figure out, and Albright is maneuvering around him having no clue how to move him. Albright has amazing throwing strength and there's a moment where he moves in to deadlift Tenta, which...that's just not going to happen. Vader and Tenta are fun bullying Yamazaki, and Yamazaki gets a nice backpack choke on Tenta at one point, which is how I assume this will end. After all, Vader isn't going to lose, right? This whole match was basically a nice slow burn and build to get to a Vader/Albright showdown, and my god do they pay it off. Tenta and Albright come to another stand off and Vader starts excitedly waving his arms from the apron, wanting that HOT TAG and the fans go from murmuring to chattering to yelling after seeing how excited Vader is to clash with Albright. Outside of that pull apart before the bell, they were not in the ring together until this moment, and it totally explodes.

Vader bullies him with strikes and Albright, beaten down, roars out of the corner with elbows and freaking THROWS Vader with a gorgeous belly to belly. The form on Albright's belly to belly is second to no man, but performing it on a 400 lb. man without losing any of the form is just astounding. We really need to go back and reevaluate Albright. The book for years on Albright was "Kawada carried him to a great match once" and considering I've never not loved an Albright performance I've seen, I don't think that is anywhere close to accurate. I need to find the Albright gems. And IZU. Nobody gave a shit about lumpy 90s AJ dudes. They need a modern voice. Anyway, now Yamazaki tags in and has renewed confidence against Vader, throwing big KO kicks and working an armbar, frustrating Vader so much that he pops Yamazaki in the mouth illegally, and this makes the fans want Yamazaki MORE. It's a great moment. Tenta squashes him a bit, hits a great uranage and his powerslam with the specific powerslam grip that only Tenta uses. You are picturing it now. But you know this is gonna come down to Vader/Albright, and it comes down with a brutal sudden downpour. Vader gets tossed with another gorgeous belly to belly, then Albright - being an absolute man beast - tries to drag a belly flopping Vader to his feet with a rear waistlock, just trying to deadlift drag freaking VADER back to his feet, like nobody at all can do, but Albright drags him there and bounces Vader across the ring with an amazing German suplex. Vader almost rolls through it and is back to his feet throwing bombs, but Albright throws him again and taps him with an armbar. Albright's selling on his celebration felt like an actual sports victory, very excited and emotional. The suplexes were outstanding, and he threw them with the same violent grace he would a guy half Vader's size. What a way to start this feud.

Super Vader/John Tenta vs. Gary Albright/Kazuo Yamazaki UWF-I 10/14/94

ER: This is a real treat as Vader mostly came in to work one shots every few months for UWF, so a rematch happening barely a week later feels like a big deal. This is slightly diminishing returns from the first match, as the first is longer and this loses some of the freshness of the match-ups, but this still has the electricity of the first match, especially since you know it's building to a big Vader/Albright blow off. A lot of the dynamics from the first match are repeated here: Yamazaki starts with Vader, Tenta comes in to work Albright, we build to Vader working Albright, and then this time Vader and Tenta finish off Yamazaki, escaping Albright's wrath. Yamazaki/Vader is a fun match-up with Yamazaki peppering Vader with leg kicks, and Vader is always great at showing the right amount of vulnerability with him, stumbling in the right ways and always building to a great moment where he falls into the ropes as his legs knot up. This era of Tenta is one of my favorite looks in wrestling history. He's absolutely monstrous, looking like the most menacing cross between Ricky Jay and the guy who chases Pee Wee around the Cabazon Dinosaurs. He laughs his way through Yamazaki's leg kicks and shoves him into the ropes, and is again flustered on the mat by Albright, lying one his stomach and basically refusing to move, effectively blocking a choke and refusing to budge. His presence alone is cool, and it feels big when he powerslams Albright and wrenches him into a Boston crab. Of course we get the big Vader/Albright showdown with Albright calling for Vader to tag in, and seeing Albright throw Vader with Germans is just one of the more impressive things in wrestling, Vader gets bounced hard by Albright, and Albright is great and selling the energy it took to pull off the throw, and Vader was great at selling the impact of the throws, slowly rolling over like someone who threw their back out. When it came down to striking Vader threw some awesome combos to overwhelm Albright, knocking him silly and sending him falling through the ropes to the apron, practically landing on his head. Tenta squishes Yamazaki with a powerslam and Vader polishes him off with a powerbomb that no mortal could get up from, and in just 3 long months we get to see Albright and Vader mano y mano, the two wildest bulls in UWF-I.


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1994: Ooh Vader, UWF-I Love Your Way

Super Vader vs. Masahito Kakihara  UWF-I 5/6/94

ER: This was shaping up to be maybe the squashiest of the Vader UWF-I matches, until suddenly it was filled to the brim with joy and became epic. Vader rushes and repeatedly crushes Kakihara into the corner, just traps him and mauls him. After the first pouncing the ref is almost surprised to see Kakihara not getting up, but Vader smells blood and keeps going to that well. Kakihara is very quickly down 15-6. This seems literally 30 seconds away from being a points TKO, but Vader misses a huge lariat and Kakihara goes for broke with a spinning heel kick that surprises Vader, and Kakihara is unleashed!! He starts kicking at Vader, drops him to all fours with a kick to the gut, kicks him while he's down, and grabs that arm. Vader, you recall, got his arm ripped apart when he finally tapped out against Takada, full arm stretcher job and everything. Here we are 6 months later and he still has that arm bandaged up! Tapping to Takada gave the monster an actual, exploitable weakness! Fans saw it work before, Vader still clearly has a hurt arm, though he didn't have a heavily bandaged arm during these same 6 months in WCW. Yes, Vader is working a UWF-I-only injury, just telling all his friends that he really DOES have a girlfriend, but you see she lives in Canada. Kakihara doesn't get shutout, as Vader needs the rope break, but you can't knock away 14 more points 1 point at a time. He dances with the spinning heel kick that brung him to the dance, Vader ducks low having seen it coming a mile away, and then proceeds to see if he has the strength to propel a human body through a ring. He hits his mammoth chokeslam and then rolls through Kakihara with a snapmare, just so he could roll him back into his face smasher. Kakihara's face bounces disgustingly off the mat and that is all. Many people attend to him. A human-sized stretcher is brought in, and Vader babyfaces himself by telling the crowd that the West could learn a lot from Japanese culture, and that win or lose he will always put on a good fight. I would have loved it had he said that, then gone and totally upended Kakihara on the stretcher.

Super Vader vs. Kiyoshi Tamura  UWF-I 6/10/94

ER: One of the hottest under 10 minute matches in history. I'd like to think Vince McMahon would have billed it as "Seven Minutes...IN HELL!" We open on Vader wearing the largest wraparound Oakleys you've seen, and Vader's entrance theme is a glorious 16 bit 4-bar junkyard bop, like you're about to face a boss comprised of scrap metal and car parts. Tamura opts to slap face instead of shake hand, and the crowd recognizes that their lives will not ever be the same again. Tamura knows his chances of winning lie in the mat, and how do you get a boulder with legs to the mat? You kick those legs right out from under the boulder. Tamura unleashes those leg kicks and Vader sells them perfectly. Tamura figures out just how far away he can be from him to land them and not get crushed. It's a mostly sound strategy. Tamura kicks low a few times and finishes high, knocks Vader into the ropes, low again and then high, starts working for a heel hook. It's an awesome sight to see a beast like Vader scrambling for ropes. At one point Tamura grabs what looks like the nastiest stump puller I've ever seen and I have no clue how Vader was able to stand afterwards. Vader immediately just starts going for KO blows, trying to muscle through the leg kicks to land one big shot. One shot does land, knocking Tamura to the mat, and the second the ref checks in on Tamura, Vader drops to a knee in pain. My god what a great moment. Another great moment comes when Vader swings wild and falls on his face, leading to Tamura pouncing. But once Vader lands a shot, then another, then a hard slam, Tamura's points just start falling far too quickly. I loved Tamura rolling back to his feet after a fallaway slam, so he wouldn't get dinged 3 points for getting knocked down, and love how he gamely tries to spring to his feet after a powerbomb, but...it's a Vader powerbomb. That's a match ender, that.

Super Vader vs. Nobuhiko Takada  UWF-I 8/18/94

ER: I've seen a lot of praise for this match, and it's the most commonly cited "great UWF-I main event" or some iteration of that claim ("best Takada main event", "best Vader match in UWF-I") and I just don't agree. I think overall it's hurt by its length of nearly 20 minutes. 20 minutes doesn't sound like a long time for a main event in front of a packed and enthusiastic Budokan crowd, but it lead to some repetitive stand and trade and knockdown. If this was the only time Vader worked UWF-I then I imagine I would have been flipping out for this. There were still a ton of great moments, and the extra time allowed for a longer story to unfold, as we'd not really had a Vader match where exhaustion set in for both fighters, with both men tired and forced to work in quick bursts and then rest, or go to a hold with no intention of finishing, but knowing it just momentarily stops things and allows the lungs to fill back up.

It's tough to do a long worked shoot match without someone's strikes looking ineffective. Every UWF-I Vader fight we've seen so far have had guys getting put down with strikes, only to struggle to their feet a handful of times until they no longer can (or, if they're using a points system, until they are a big 0). Here we get 20 minutes of Takada valiantly climbing back to his feet, and it's tough to not feel like a major portion of the middle of the match is just these two spinning their wheels. Vader knocks Takada to the mat 3 times in the first minute of the match, one of the times leading to Takada curled up in the fetal position around the ringpost, looking like a sleepy kitten who tired himself out and landed in a cozy sunbeam. And I think there are maybe too many peaks/valleys here, with both set in their ways and both trying to finish the way they know how to finish, and the longer you see it the more other little stories open up, and you're wondering if you're imagining the ref counting down Vader faster, and when Takada goes down he takes a couple seconds to check on him before beginning each count, and your brain starts wondering if Takada is somehow giving off the appearance of cheating in a worked fight.

I wish this was worked with points. I don't know why some UWF-I fights have points, and others don't, but I love the sudden death feeling that points fights have. Imagine how Takada would have reacted had he been down 15-6 one minute into the fight! But I do like the tired struggle we get down the stretch, where Takada keeps getting back to his feet with less and less each time, to the point where he's not even attempting offense and merely getting bulldozed now that it's become a weight battle. Vader hits a HUGE German suplex and a stiff shoot powerbomb (with Takada trying to kick him in the face the whole time). Takada finds himself in worse and worse positions on the mat, at one point ending up with his head wedged between Vader's knees, and on the receiving end of a nasty palm strike when attempting an armbar. So while I like the others more, there is charm to this tired epic. Takada had won 17 straight singles fights dating back over 2 years, so having him die on his feet over and over against the Mastodon is a suitable way for an ace to finally succumb.


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1993: UWF-I, Vader Ain't Got No Alibi

Super Vader vs. Kazuo Yamazaki UWF-I 8/13/93

ER: I love the energy for these matches, love how the Japanese workers act like they loathe Vader coming onto their turf, love how the fans seem resigned to the fact that Vader is going to smoosh their favorites, and so they absolutely lose it whenever their guys are aggressive or gain a momentary advantage. Something as little as Yamazaki going for a go behind, even though there was not even a tease of him being able to throw Vader, gets a major reaction. So when Yamazaki actually starts landing on Vader the crowd is going absolutely bonkers. And the stuff with Vader landing shots is just fantastic. Yamazaki keeps throwing kicks that are too catchable, and Vader starts off almost too nice, just kind of working a catch and release program with the kicks. But things change when Yamazaki somehow picks a leg and Vader ends up on his back. It doesn't feel totally honorable but I fully understand Yamazaki kicking at Vader's head while Vader is grounded. The fans don't care either as any advantage is an advantage. 

Yamazaki is so good at being right on top of it, as the second Vader gets to his feet he lands a huge spin kick that sends Vader crashing into the ropes. Vader is so great at falling into ropes, through the ropes, getting backed into a corner with precision kicks to the face, and the way he's staggering and falling makes it immediately look like Yamazaki has a legit chance. We get an absolutely nuts moment where both men tie each other up and fall into the ropes, tumbling fast and violent over the top to the floor. You don't often see someone fall through the ropes in a fight, but when you do it always feels like a big moment, and this felt like the biggest, pro wrestling version of that moment. But all it takes is Vader catching one kick for Kaz to accept that Vader is not messing around. He decks him with a huge punch, flings him with a slam, locks on a huge standing choke (imagine one of those arms hooked under your chin!!) and just buries him with a uranage. Vader is an absolute tidal wave in this environment.

Super Vader vs. Naoki Sano UWF-I 10/4/93

ER: Definitely the strikiest of the UWF-I Vader matches we've seen so far. Vader catches a kick early and Sano slaps Vader while Vader is HOLDING HIS LEG! Then Sano falls back into the ropes for the break. The balls on this man. But we get a ton of punch and kick flurries the entire match, from both men. Vader is less about catching a leg and landing a huge bomb, and more about throwing hard palm strikes to the head and body. At one point he fakes a downward righthand strike, Sano takes the bait and Vader hooks him in the ribs with a left. So awesome. Sano is not bashful about trading, and the fans get way into it, and when he knocks Vader down the fans are still thirsty for that big first Vader loss. Vader just starts crushing him though, dropping him with a couple of big Samoan drops (I would have bet money that Sano was going to grab some kind of choke when Vader went for the second one, shocked it didn't happen), and Vader's chokeslam is really becoming quite the finisher. Sano's opening was really great in this, as he low bridges Vader over the top to the floor, and Vader takes a mammoth (wooly mammoth?) bump to the floor. The buzz in the crowd whenever Vader goes down is super exciting, but Sano will not be the one to vanquish the Mastodon.

Super Vader vs. Nobuhiko Takada UWF-I 12/5/93

ER: A huge main event to cap off a huge stadium show. Takada was wildly over and hadn't lost a singles match in over a year and a half. Vader looked mostly unstoppable and was one of the biggest wrestling stars in the world. I love how Vader came into UWF-I and worked like Vader. There was no shootstyle here, it's just his style - that of a 400 pound mastodon - being dumped right in the middle of shootstyle workers. And he was such a giant boulder standing in the way of the native stars' success that it was the perfect style clash. Vader was a megastar and was treated as such, and there was electricity throughout this entire match because the fans saw Takada as unbeatable, yet also saw Vader as unbeatable, and they were having a hard time reconciling those two conflicting results in real time, so they were just vocally excited the entire time. Takada is vicious with leg kicks here, and Vader is so phenomenal at selling those leg kicks that - whether he was or not - I fully bought that every muscle in his thigh was getting completely knotted up. Vader had used a pretty successful tactic in his other UWF-I matches where he would walk through offense and just land big strikes, work to catch a kick and then throw a haymaker. But Takada's leg kicks are too strong. 

Vader works a more aggressive mat game than in his prior matches, here actively trying to land on Takada and working vicious grounded palm strikes and trying to pop Takada's head off with awful headlocks. He even rushes Takada with a takedown at one point, which he hasn't done so far in UWF-I. And his leg is getting so knotted up that he can barely stand, and does great theatrical things like pushing himself back to his feet off his good leg, and at one point he even gets himself to his feet by using the referee to push off of. Vader wisely abandons the tactic of trying to catch Takada's kicks, and starts immediately closing gaps during stand up, not giving Takada space to fire off kicks. Vader runs in close and just muscles him into slams, any one of which feels like Takada won't get up from. Vader attempts to fight Takada at his own game, wrestles him to the ground with an armbar, but Takada is slippery on the mat and Vader's size is more exploitable there, and getting Vader to tap was a monumental moment in wrestling history. Takada didn't get there easy, and he even fought a little dirty down the stretch, kicking Vader while he was down, kicking him in the chest and gut, really sadistically picking him apart before going after the arm. He didn't set out to win this way, but it was what he had to do to win. Two unbeatable men, doing what they had to do. Vader's arm gets a fucking  stretcher job, and it's the greatest. There are two men, holding Vader's injured arm in a stretcher, one walking in front of him and one behind, his injured arm nestled on a tiny stretcher.


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Mini Complete and Accurate: Vader in UWF-I

Vader's 1993-1995 run in UWF-I is one of the most unique runs in wrestling history. The current WCW champion going over to Japan a few times a year to headline shows for a shoot style fed that drew way more fans than WCW was drawing. There were arcade fighting games based around this kind of concept. Some with characters that looked like Vader. He was shoot style Godzilla catching leg kicks and throwing chokeslams. He was too big to fail, and the 12 match run felt like it needed to be formally documented. There will be no listed rankings of these matches as since they all rule, the exercise would be pointless.

1993

Super Vader vs. Tatsuo Nakana 5/6/93
Super Vader vs. Kazuo Yamazaki 8/13/93
Super Vader vs. Naoki Sano 10/4/93
Super Vader vs. Nobuhiko Takada 12/5/93

1994

Super Vader vs. Masahito Kakihara 5/6/94 
Super Vader vs. Kiyoshi Tamura 6/10/94
Super Vader vs. Nobuhiko Takada 8/18/94
Super Vader/John Tenta vs. Gary Albright/Kazuo Yamazaki 10/8/94
Super Vader/John Tenta vs. Gary Albright/Kazuo Yamazaki 10/14/94

1995

Super Vader vs. Gary Albright 1/16/95
Super Vader vs. Nobuhiko Takada 4/20/95

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RIP Mastodon

Big Van Vader vs. Tony Halme NJPW 5/17/92

PAS: This is a fun battle of monsters, which is exactly what you want it to be. Halme may have the best body shots in wrestling history and he really is digging in into Vader's big belly here. There are very few wrestlers Vader has ever fought who you buy going toe to toe with him. It was a battle of those great looping Vader hooks against the those thudding body shots. We also got a big Halme top rope clothesline and a body slam. I loved the finish run with Vader throwing big clotheslines and Halme refusing to go down until he finally does. The actual finish run was a bit of a banana peel, but both guys are so imposing, banana peel seems like the only way.

ER: I just saw the movie Rampage (again...) and this is the large white men version of that. I'm with Phil on this one as how many guys can stand opposite Vader and make it look like a fair stand and trade? How many guys can stand across Halme and do the same? Also agree that Halme's hard right to the stomach is my favorite body shot in wrestling. It's thrown perfectly, lands and explodes. It's the best strike he throws, but it's also the best strike almost anyone throws. Even in his earliest matches Halme had a great elbowdrop, and he throws a perfect one here, and Vader takes this great sprawling bump across the ring off a top rope clothesline. Vader is a savage though and our finishing run is just lariat after lariat after avalanche after lariat after bear attack. Vader appears to be attempting to crush Halme's collarbones, dropping a big butt splash and a standing splash directly across his upper chest, and then some more lariats to that chest. At one point while lying on his back, Halme appears to feel for his heartbeat. The finish is a flash, with Vader missing another butt splash and immediately getting rolled up (and appearing to kick out), and it is a little disappointing not seeing these guys just murder each other to completion. Halme has this great aloof smug face though, so it's funny to see him immediately selling the victory like he hadn't spent the previous 3 minutes getting crushed. Halme is not one of the all time great wrestling titans like Vader, but he's damn sure a guy you want to see opposite a titan.

Super Vader vs. Tatsuo Nakano UWFI 5/6/93

PAS: This is Vader's debut match in UWFI and Nakano is a great opponent for a short sprint semi squash. He is a fat Elvis looking dude who always comes forward and fights, which is perfect for a guy getting mauled by a Grizzly Bear. He gets one great bit of offense, where he trips Vader and starts pounding him in the back in the head with some really stiff forearms. Vader lays in a big time beating, with a huge german suplex and a running smash where he obliterates Nakano and the ref. He finishes him with two big body shots and a hook. Great debut which makes Vader look unstoppable and Nakano like a tough bastard.

ER: Crowd is straight RABID for Vader, and why wouldn't they be? There's a roar through the first few minutes of this that practically sounds like the Beatles playing Shea. Nakano shows why I could never be a wrestler, standing chest out as Vader walks up to him...and Vader just looks enormous. He looks comically large. We all know how large Vader was, but here he just looks absolutely larger than life, like he's about to just swallow Nakano whole. Nakano is a man and takes his beating, trying some leg kicks that could have been effective the longer the match lasted, and getting Vader momentarily off his feet which is the only place Nakano had a shot. But this is a debuting monster, and that monster is gonna eat. Vader hits two of my absolute favorite avalanches here, one the second the bell rings (just to show Nakano how this match is going to go) and another as Nakano is getting back to his feet and Vader just decides to steamroll him AND the ref. The UWF-I points system just makes it look like Nakano's health meter is constantly draining, which, yeah, is accurate. The German is big, and he even pulls back on it a bit, rotating to the side at the last minute so it's more of a flat back suplex, when he could have just planted him dome first by going straight over the top. His strikes looked impossible to take, and the body shots to end the match look like something that could end any match ever.

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