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Thursday, August 25, 2022

On Brand Segunda Caida: Iceberg in TNA! One Man Gang vs. a Sluff!

One Man Gang vs. Avalanche White MECW 1999

ER: Avalanche White, boy what a sight. Bryan Turner has been uploading a ton of southern indy gold from the lost era between VHS and DVD, and this one jumped out at me for a couple reasons. First, One Man Gang was still awesome in 1999. It's weird to think that by the time he was done with WWF, done with his WCW comeback, done with his 98/99 ECW stints, that Gang wasn't even 40 years old. Somehow, the One Man Gang was barely 40 when he worked the WWF Gimmick Battle Royal. As seen in several ECW fancams, One Man Gang could still GO in 1999 (seek out the Sabu and RVD matches, they're out there somewhere). So, knowing 1999 Gang could still go, AND seeing him against some guy named Avalanche White, my mind was made up. One Man Gang against a man large enough to go by Avalanche!? Well, it turns out that this avalanche was more of a guy with an early 90s WWF dumpy jobber physique, and the only avalanche was him hitting the mat whenever Gang beat him down. I am almost surely never going to see Avalanche White again, and that is because One Man Gang packed him up and shipped him out. This was entirely Gang, nothing but stiff clubbing arms, clotheslines, a pair of great elbowdrops, and a nice legdrop that saw Gang hold onto the top rope and not let go until the leg was dropped. Avalanche got choked a ton over the rope and absorbed several kinds of elbow strikes, and wouldn't you know, Gang added insult to injury by flattening Avalanche with an Avalanche. RIP Avalanche White, buried in an avalanche of white. Who has the 1999 Carlos Colon/One Man Gang match? 


Iceberg vs. David Young TNA Xplosion 1/15/03

ER: You could give TNA some credit for putting guys like Iceberg on regional TV, but you should criticize TNA for only using guys like Tank and Iceberg a couple of times when they should have been featuring guys like that. Pro wrestling fell out of love with big fat guys like Iceberg by the late 90s, and we've all been worse for it since. The Atkins diet was all the rage and suddenly a great big fat guy and cool wrestler like Iceberg has no guaranteed employment. Young and Iceberg had plenty of matches in Wildside and the greater Cornelia area, and they fit a lot into the TV time here. Young hit a big Asai moonsault into the entrance but then got flattened into the apron by an Iceberg avalanche. From there we get to see the kind of thing Iceberg can do. He might slow down the longer a match goes, but he lands heavy and takes offense well. He throws Young around with a belly to belly and a delayed flapjack slam, drops right onto him with a side slam, and then hits his awesome running splash. I love a big fat guy splash, but Iceberg has an especially good one. He runs from the corner and dives low like he's the fattest dude to ever do a Pete Rose impression. He uses a real similar motion when he uses his spear, and lo, he also has a great spear. He takes a couple of big bumps: getting his corner punches reversed into a kickass sitout powerbomb, and then running into a spinebuster on the floor. A guy Young's size hitting a spinebuster on a guy Iceberg's size doesn't really work, but I'm real happy we got to see someone even try to bust up a quarter ton man's spine. 



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Friday, October 09, 2020

New Footage Friday: All Hail The King

Jerry Lawler/Issac Yankem DDS vs. The Smoking Guns WWF 1/6/96 - GREAT

MD: Hey, another match with some weird legal man issues. This time, it let us enjoy a brief moment of Lawler being a WWF Tag Team Champion. I didn't love the first minute or so of this when Bart was clunkily tag-team specialist-ing against Yankem but the rest was pretty good. Billy was solid, both in reacting to Lawler's antics and as a face-in-peril, though I wish he would have gotten a few more hope spots. Lawler brought the hidden object which is sometimes smoother in a tag setting with the distraction possibilities. He hit a great bulldog mid-heat and then whiffed wildly on the second one to set up the (not perfectly timed on Yankem's cut off attempt) hot tag. They could have handled the restart better since they didn't get across to the crowd well why the disembodied presence of Monsoon was actually restarting the thing. Still, a unique match-up and a new * for Lawler's storied career.

PAS: Lawler never held a title in the WWF/E not even five minutes with the 24/7 title. I guess this phantom tag title change is the closest he ever got. Bart was really bad in this, one of the crappier hot tags I can remember seeing. Billy was a pretty great face in peril, took a big flip bump on a clothesline, was part of that awesome bulldog segment with Lawler, and landed a cool punch. Yankem was really clumsly, but in a way that worked, and Lawler was masterful of course. I always enjoy watching him work a donut hole foreign object and he commanded the ring as he always does. Finish was trash, but a great showcase from a bit of a lost period for the King. 

ER: I always get super excited when WWF house show Lawler turns up. For a guy who has been affiliated with WWF for over 20 years, we really don't have a ton of Lawler footage from up north. He's not someone who was a regular TV worker, seemingly one of the only guys allowed to work indies while also working for WWF. 1996 was his most active year in WWF and he only shows up on TV or PPV 14 times, so house show fancams are genuine blessings. Also, considering they brought Yankem in attached to Lawler, this is one of only 5 tag matches Lawler and Yankem worked together, so again we are blessed. The tag was great (until the inept finish) and I think Yankem really benefitted from being paired with Lawler. He's still a big galoot who isn't great at staggering, but his Memphis offense is way tighter. He throws an overhand right that is far better than his overhand rights even two years later, looking like he just levels Billy; later in the match he drops a jumping elbowdrop right on the collarbones, no light, totally different than his light leaping elbow he was using a couple years later. 

Lawler was a total King in this match, hiding a chain throughout and sneaking in punches behind the ref's back, whiffing on a corner punch to Billy and then getting lambasted by Billy's punch (Lawler is not only wrestling's best puncher, but he is the best at making everyone he works into the best puncher) and hits a gnarly bulldog. The best part of the bulldog is he uses it again late in the match as a comeback spot for Billy, as Billy just throws him forward right when Lawler leaps into it. Lawler selling the bulldog bump was my favorite moment of the match. Bart Gunn sees red on the hot tag and punches Yankem like mad in the corner, while juuuuust off camera Lawler cheats to win (jeez guys, I appreciate the handheld, but how are you only filming HALF of the ring during the finish) and hits a piledriver. Lawler and Yankem win the tag titles, until Finkel gets on the mic and says that Gorilla Monsoon demands the match restarted even though he respects the referee's decision and Finkel can't make the reasoning for a restart sound the least bit convincing. One of the guys filming the match sums the restart up perfectly:

"That really is lame."

Match restarted, Gunns quickly win, and it's incredibly lame. A several month run with Lawler and Yankem holding the straps would have been so much better than the Smoking Gunns. Also, I'd like to say I was there live for Lawler coming close to winning the WWE title at Elimination Chamber 2011. His Heavyweight title match against Miz is one of my all time favorite live wrestling moments, and the crowd definitely wanted Lawler to win the title. I thought it was happening and I wasn't alone. I feel real lucky to have been there for that match. 



PAS: This was full shtick Lawler, and I think Attitude era Lawler may be the low point of his in-ring career. This was 95% crowd mic work and spots worked around the Kat. Lawler is good at this kind of stuff, but it isn't what you want to see him do. We get maybe the most inauthentic looking kiss the valet spots from Rapada ever, the equivalent of watching Ellen do straight romantic comedy roles. During the brief actual wrestling moments, Lawler did hit a nasty fistdrop to the back of Rapada's head and take a big backdrop bump, but otherwise this was about as mailed in as Lawler is going to do. And it isn't like Mike Rapada is going to pick up the slack.

MD: This wasn't much of a match. Probably a little too much Stacy, though it's not like she didn't play her role well, and Rapada had a credibility issue with the crowd and, let's face it, with the world. At times, it was the Jerry Lawler Comedy Hour. That said, if the wrestling ring was the ocean, Lawler would be able to breathe underwater. Obviously, I've seen hundreds of his matches, but he just moves from one thing here to the next with absolute ease. It doesn't matter what he's doing: taunting a fan in the third row, getting cheapshots in on Rapada in the corner, stalling and making it about Stacy again, jawing with the crowd who were chanting something he couldn't quite make out, feeding a giant back body drop for Rapada. It all just seems effortless and natural. That was one secret of Lawler's success; no matter how outlandish what you were watching was, you just had to suspend your disbelief less with him. It only helped the match so much on this night though.

Jerry Lawler/Rob Williams vs. Bad Attitude (David Young/Rick Michaels) NWA Wildside 5/22/01 - EPIC

PAS: This is from a Wildside house show and is a pretty great house show Southern tag. I don't remember Rob Williams at all, but he is a fine Ricky Riceish muscular babyface tag wrestler. Lawler doesn't do a ton in this match, Williams gets a lot of the early face shine, and is the face in peril, but everything he does is perfect. I love tagging in early and bumping the heels leading Michaels to scoot back and crotch himself on the ringpost. All of his punches look like Lawler punches and we get a Lawler piledriver. Most of the match is Bad Attitude beating on Williams, and they are pretty great at it. All of the simple stuff looks great, both Michaels and Young have good looking looping punches, and they hit some killer double teams including a drop toehold into a running knee. We get to see both Young's powerslam and his Spinebuster which are always amazing looking and the finish sends the crowd home happy. Cool discovery, so glad whoever runs the Wildeside channel dug it up. 

MD: It's been a long time since I've seen any Bad Attitude, but Young looked many degrees better than Michaels did to me here. Really solid presence and timing and yes, attitude. His stooging drew me in while Michaels' was too over the top and took me out of the match much more. Half of Williams' stuff looked good. Half of it maybe less so. Lawler was absolutely what you'd want him to be in this role, with a rule of 3 bit with Young in the shine and working of the corner until the hot tag and him clearing house. First half of the finish was weird to me because Williams was obviously not the legal man but it let fans bask in the glory of the attraction at least.

ER: This is the kind of tag match you hope you see when you go to an indy show. This was fantastic. Lawler was in the ring less than anybody in the match and yet was used perfectly, because Bad Attitude were the exact team that could get you invested in a 20 minute indy tag during this era. They know when to come hard with moves and knew how to stooge liberally while still coming off as a threat. Their heat segment on Williams was the kind of thing that gets me insanely involved at a wrestling show, they pulled it off perfectly. Williams was a strong babyface (I don't think I've ever seen him before, but he did everything a good babyface should do in this kind of match) and Lawler made the most of his time in the ring (and punching at Young from the apron), but it's impossible to watch this match and not want to go watch several more Bad Attitude matches. 

David Young works like Alex Jones decided to dedicate his con gifts to pro wrestling, throws a legendarily great spinebuster and powerslam, and takes stooging bumps as good as heel Lawler. I loved how Young took a drop toehold and then held his mouth, or the way he bumped over the top to the floor off a late match Lawler haymaker. His double teams with Michaels were strong as well and made a long heat segment on Williams fly right on by. Michaels is such a pro, and I love the twists he puts on already great spots. BA did one of the best drop toehold/kneedrop spots I've seen, because Michaels dropped that knee head on, not coming at Williams at a perpendicular but dropping it straight into his forehead at a straight angle. Michaels threw great punches and shook his fist out (that's the real sign of what makes a wrestler an all timer), gave Williams brief believable openings before closing them down, backed balls first into a ringpost AND flopped around tremendously for a Lawler legdrop to the balls, and like Young knew exactly where to be at all times. Great tag match, and before tonight I had no idea Lawler even worked Wildside. 




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Monday, March 12, 2018

C.W. Anderson: Man Who Doesn't Always Quit



C.W. Anderson has been a favorite of mine since ECW, and recently I thought his promo work with Ric Converse was his career best, and all used to build up a Career vs. Title I Quit match. The match totally delivered the goods (here's our review and a link to that match), and I loved how CW treated the I Quit stipulation as something he had never gotten over, as something that has haunted him for 15+ years. I haven't watched the Anderson/Dreamer I Quit match since it originally aired on the final ECW PPV, so I thought it would be fun to revisit. In doing so, I found that Anderson had worked a couple other I Quit matches since that first one (including a couple against Dreamer, which I sadly could not find), so of course I will be checking those out as well.


C.W. Anderson vs. Tommy Dreamer  ECW Guilty As Charged 1/7/01

ER: Boy, going back and watching this with 2018 eyes and I'm really happy that I willingly and proudly associated myself with ECW fans. I can't think of too many places that have gathered 2500 more undesirable people into one building. It's truly the trump rally of wrestling crowds. As they panned the crowd I get expecting to see a black man dressed like he was ready for a soft shoe routine to come out and yell "GET OUT!" to any women in attendance. But the match is good! CW is great in brawls and really put over everything Dreamer tried, got big height on a Sky High, though weirdly was able to use a rope break when Dreamer had him in a Boston Crab. Wait you can use weapons and gouge someone's eyes out to get them to say I Quit, but a rope break is still the rule of the land? You could use the ropes to choke someone and get them to say I Quit. This makes no sense. 


But the stuff on the floor is good, Dreamer kicking CW's arm in a chair, setting the ring bell against CW's head and hitting it with a wrench, and CW comes up bleeding. But I will say that I must not be a true ECW fan, because I don't remember Towel Boy. Was Towel Boy some skinny indy worker that found a gig as a guy taking bumps? I remember Dick Hertz but don't have any memory of Towel Boy. But Towel Boy attacks Anderson with Christmas wrapped cookie sheets so CW hits a huge delay superplex on Towel Boy. You know, Towel Boy. Towel Boy also brought Dreamer a roll of razor wire, and I get my wish when CW gives Dreamer a spinebuster on the razor wire. Dreamer also takes a suplex through two set up chairs which is hell on the kidneys. But Dreamer hits a big Death Valley Driver off the middle rope through a table, and the table explodes in a pretty spectacular way. Dreamer gets him to quit by wrapping the table banding around his eyes and tightening it. I had pretty much only remembered the finish, so the rest of the match was a treat. It wasn't as good as I remembered it, but it had blood and some good violence, a ton of scuzzy meathead fans, and built nicely. Good match.


C.W. Anderson vs. Dewey Cheatum  SCW 5/30/02

ER: I'm not sure what events happened that made it necessary to have an I Quit match, but I'm glad those events happened. Dewey Cheatum was a fun early 2000s Carolina guy with some of the absolutely worst indy wrestling fashion. He looks like Ken Rosenthal filming a parody of a 1999 Mountain Dew commercial. He's wearing baggy red parachute pants, a red mesh tank top, and one of those printed button ups that seem to be exclusively worn by fat gamers or guys who play Warhammer at comic book shops. It was the only button up a mother could get her teen son to wear to family dinner night at Outback after she peeled him away from a 13 hour marathon World of Warcraft sesh. And CW punishes him for that outfit. Cheatum is a guy with decent punches and some nice bumps, and shows here that he will bleed in a match. Anderson was never in a ton of danger, as whenever Cheatum would get any headway he would be cut off shortly after by Anderson. Anderson is a great bully, and he punches and elbows and slaps Cheatum around the ring and ringside, runs him balls first into the ringpost, grates his face over the turnbuckle bolt, and finds a hunk of sharp metal on the floor (that the guy filming adeptly zooms in on, making up for him earlier filming a nice strike exchange while being blocked by the referee's track pants) that surely won't come into play later. Cheatum fights back and throws nice punches to the mid section, but gets folded by a super quick snap German suplex. Even him setting up a superkick out of the corner gets cut off by a surely more brutal Anderson superkick. Cheatum eats chairshots and jabs a piece of bleeding metal into Cheatum's head to get the I Quit. Anderson crushes the ref with a spinebuster after the match, probably for wearing track pants.


C.W. Anderson/Jack Victory/Bar Room Brawler/David Young/Guillotine LeGrande/Ronnie Stevens vs. Dusty Rhodes/Homicide/Iceberg/Becky Bayless/J-Train/Louie Ramos  ROH Epic Encounter 4/12/03

ER: Well this was flat out great. Total chaos, tons of blood, someone who may have never wrestled before or after, giant fat dudes, small slender ladies, random one off ROH appearances by some, just a whirlwind of violence. We get some MVP performances from CW, Jack Victory, and Iceberg but really everyone adds to this as best they can. Jack Victory looks completely unathletic (and usually wrestles like that) but is a monster here pairing off and warring with Homicide, smashing through a table like the Incredible Hulk to use pieces of it as a weapon, getting launched through that table by Homicide (who then jumps on the table with Victory underneath), later he acts like a real thug and holds Becky Bayless by the hair so Ronnie Stevens/Simply Luscious can smack her, and quits for his team after getting his face and mouth forked and spiked by Homicide. This was my favorite Jack Victory performance. 

CW is expectedly great, always awesome in a brawl, has probably the best punch exchange of the match (with Homicide), smashes him with the spinebuster, and is the biggest stooge for Dusty (even taking a kick right between the uprights). Iceberg was mountainous and was not only the largest man in the match (by far) but took the craziest bumps (big drop toehold into steps on the floor, taking a nutty German suplex from David Young) and flattens Young with a BIG splash. Dusty is fun, tricks everybody by sending a fake Dusty out as the Midnight Rider (who the heck was this guy, he was taller and larger than anyone in the match other than Iceberg) and then sneaks in while the rider is miming Dusty elbows on the apron. Guillotine LeGrande is stiffing people, some juiced doof named Bar Room Brawler comes in throwing accidental stiff shots like someone who took a one day Power Plant seminar, J-Train (the future Julius Smokes) does a crazy dropkick off the apron and splats on the floor, the whole thing is just great. It was preceded by a 40 minute London/Danielson match that I'm sure is awesome, but at this point in my life I can't imagine enjoying it more than the slab of bloody sleaze that followed it.

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Saturday, July 09, 2011

NWA Wildside- Throwback Review Episode 42

http://www.twnworldwide.tv/nwawildside42.html

6/26/00

Long intro, starting with Steve Martin (was not in Roxanne) and Jeff G. Bailey riding to the arena, Martin explaining how he is going to confront Stone Mountain (may or may not have shot his father). Then the NWA Elite goes into the ring and Martin goes "like I told you in the car, I am calling out Stone Mountain." I am not sure why I needed the car ride about the confrontation and the actual confrontation. Martin offers Mountain a place in the NWA Elite, gets the third finger and we get a big brawl between Scotty Wrenn and Mountain with chair shots and broken handcuffs.

Jesse Taylor v. Stan "The Man" Lee

A match with plenty of entertaining pieces to it, although didn't really come together as a match. Lee is an old school Southern indy guy I have always enjoyed, kind of a poor mans Mike Davis. The match was going along at a nice pace before the blew a top rope rana which ended up spiking both guys awkwardly on their necks. It was touch and go for a bit, although they were able to bring the match back eventually.

Jon Phoenix v. Lazz

Onyx runs out during Lazz's dance routine and hits him with the light heavyweight belt (which looked like crap because Lazz went down way too early.) Phoenix hits a top rope splash and pins him. Lazz's shtick is starting to get really over with the crowd.

They have a WOW magazine segment with Bill Apter where a young wrestler named Ron Starr (a black guy, not Rugged Ron Starr) calls out Bill Beherens for not returning his calls, or giving him a booking. Kind of a weird angle, not sure if it ever went anywhere

SHANK!! is in the ring. He wants to give a shout out to all of his Overweight Lovers in the house. God has healed his hand, and he is challenging Timber the Lumberjack to a Cellblock Rules match at Freedom Fight, that is a steel cage match out in the parking lot. He tells Timber that there won't be any Vaseline, and he he can either run and hide, or bend over and take it like a man. Everything you want it to be. Man I hope they show us the Cellblock match.

Rock and Roll Express v. Bad Attitude

Joined in progress which is a bummer. We see Young get worked over and make the hot tag and Bad Attitude get the pin with a couple of top rope moves. Steve Martin (not King Tut) comes out and changes it to a 2/3 falls match. Rock and Rolls get a sort of double dropkick (Morton hit it, Gibson looked like his dropkicking days were in the past) and win a quick second fall. Fun third fall with the heel Rock and Rolls working over Michaels leg, until a hot tag, a mistimed chain throw by Martina and a Bad Attitude win. NWA Elite jumps Young and Michaels, but Morton and Gibson revert to their babyface ways and run them off.

First part of the show is skippable, but the Shank promo is Shank at his best, and I dug the main event tag.

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Thursday, July 07, 2011

NWA Wildside- Throwback Review Episode 41

http://www.twnworldwide.tv/nwawildside41.html

6/19/00

Jesse Taylor v. Mickey Richards

Competitive squash. Taylor has a nice belly to belly

Shank takes the belt he stole last week to a pawn shop. He tries to get $25,000 for it, but settles for $500. Comedy Shank isn't as good as terrifying Shank

Mick Tierney v. Smasher

Tierney beats on Smasher for a bit, and we get a Ron Studd run in, and an addition stringy haired guy also managed by Luther Biggs. The road to Tierny v. Studd continues

JC Dazz/Stone Mountain/David Young/Rick Michaels v. AJ Styles/Onyx/Eddie Golden/Bill Behrens

Really fun 8 man tag. We start out with Styles and Dazz, and they do a mirror section. Not a huge fan of mirror wrestling, but this was done really fast and ended in a great Dazz powerslam. Most of the match is Michaels getting his knee worked over with Behrens doing a nice job in the chickenshit manager role, including putting on a figure four. Finish comes with everyone in the ring brawling. Other members of the NWA Elite come in and they handcuff Stone Mountain (aka Maybyss) to the ropes. Steve Martin (not working a Steve Martin gimmick) returns to make the save with a chair. If you have ever seen wrestling before you know what happens next. The crowd is just pelting the ring with garbage at this point, and while I haven't cared for this whole angle, obviously Martin turning heel is a big deal to the crowd.

We end with a post match promo with Steve Martin and Jeff G. Bailey crowing about turning on Rick Michaels

First part of the show is skippable, but the eight man tag and post match angle was good stuff.

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Saturday, July 02, 2011

NWA Wildside- Throwback Review Episode 37

http://www.twnworldwide.tv/nwawildside37.html

5/21/00

We open with a night vision promo from SHANK!! He is in the woods outside of Timber's parents house. "I'm in your backyard boy. I see you parents right now through the window eatin dinner. Your grandma pulled up in the driveway. When they go to the door and they don't see her come in, but her cars outside. They may find the body, they may not." Yes that is a babyface credibly threatening to murder the heel's grandma. Shank is the best.

JC Dazz v. Gemini

Gemini is rocking face paint and doing kind of a fake Muta. He is exactly as good as one might expect a GA indy fake Muta to be. JC Dazz is an ex Scotty Wrenn tag partner and has the same kind of tubby jeans shorts highflyer look (he had long pants, but he looked like he should've had jeans shorts.) They do some stuff for a while and AJ Styles and Eddie Golden run in and attack Dazz.

Mick Tierney v. Stone Mountain

Tierney is a Bassman trainee who would have a cup of coffee in WWF Developmental. He is a pretty big guy who got tapped by Oleg Taktarov in a submissions tourney and played Canadian football. He wrestled like an early 2000's fake MMA guy, think Kama the Human Fighting Machine. Both of these guys looked like heavyweights which is something Wildside always had. The match sort of had that awkward feel of a Zero One mainevent without Hashimoto or Ogawa to bring things together. This ended with a Ron Studd staredown and Scotty Wrenn run in. I am starting to notice a trend here.

They have a promo with Steve Martin (Not working a Steve Martin gimmick) and Rick Michaels where they discuss AJ Styles leaving and the issues with the NWA board. Felt very expositional, if it was on Game of Thrones they would have at least shown us some titties.

Jorge Estrada/Jessie Taylor v. Onyx/Terry Knight

Onyx and Knight are Jeff G. Bailey managed. These are four pretty athletic guys, Estrada hits a tope with crazy height. Still outside of Terry Knight they all felt pretty green. Finish has Estrada pinning Knight after he gets accidentally hit with the belt. Big commercial break clip in the middle made it kind of hard to get a sense of this.

Lots of guys in this fed are great on the mike, Stone Mountain is not one of them

Cole Brothers v. Bad Attitude

Very short no DQ match. Cole twins smack the ref and double team David Young. Bill Beherens cheap shots Rick Michaels, but Michaels cracks him and Young hits his spinebuster for the three. Don't understand why this wasn't given more time as they seem to be building the Cole's as a bigger deal and the certainly look like big tough dudes.

Bad Attitude promo calling out the Rock and Roll Express which is a match I hope shows up

Opening Shank promo is must see, the rest of the show is pretty skippable.

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