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Sunday, October 25, 2020

WWE Hell in a Cell Approximately Live Blog 10/25/20


I think this show has a chance to have a couple big match deliveries, as Sasha/Bayley and Reigns/Uso both have strong on paper potential. Phil has a rare Sunday evening free so will also be sitting in and contributing to a couple cherry picked matches. And Jeff Jarrett is there? Jeff Jarrett is with WWE now? Is it weird I want to see Jarrett wrestling in NXT? 


R-Truth vs. Drew Gulak

ER: I don't follow the 24/7 title so I do not understand any of the Little Jimmy references that Drew Gulak is making. Does Truth have an imaginary child friend that accompanies him? I don't know about any of that. Is Drew Gulak bringing his Chikara mime training into the WWE where I don't want it? This is perhaps the most Chikara match I have seen Gulak work in WWE, and it's a bummer that it feels like he had those great silent era matches with Daniel Bryan and then opted to take him off TV. Now he's bumping for Truth's John Cena cosplay (which might also be a regular thing? Again I haven't seen 24/7). This looked like they would get the comedy out of the way right at the beginning and then work their way into a good match, with Gulak twisting Truth's ankle and dropping down with Indian deathlocks. But the Cena comeback jokes came really early into the match, and went right through to the end. During the straight faced moments of the match they had real nice chemistry, and that delayed sunset flip snare was pulled off by two guys who could have turned several cool sequences. I don't think we're ever getting that match though. 


Jey Uso vs. Roman Reigns

PAS: I think this ended up being a bit much. Samoan acting is more visceral than white boy acting, so this match was better than the super dramatic NXT matches. It came close, and I bought most of the emotional beats of this match, but it was really long and there was long sections of conversation and emoting and not a ton of wrestling. I also really need more violence in the Roman goes-too-far section of the match. That stair-assisted dropkick looked like something that Tommy Dreamer didn't cleanly hit in a comedy hardcore match, not something that showed Reigns lost his soul or whatever it was supposed to convey. I thought the spears looked great and Roman has a nasty guillotine, and that the finish worked well. It needed to be about 10 minutes shorter and Jey's white pants needed some blood for it to totally work for me. Afa and Sika at the end was awesome though, and I imagine this leads to Rock vs. Roman for the true head seat at the table which should be incredible. 

ER: Is this really the first WWE I Quit in five years? But I am not really enjoying this. I am not a fan of these Marvel battles where guys speak dialogue to each other before taking theatrical bumps and gnashing their teeth at the lights. If they were doing this on a windy green grass hillside cliff I could possibly get into it more. It does not work for me as pro wrestling, and it does not work for me as high drama. It was like they were doing a musical so the story took 5x as long to tell itself, ended up going way too long, and had too much dramatic build between each bit of wrestling. The spears were spaced well and I enjoyed things like Jey scrambling to choke Roman with the strap, but this dialogue thing is boring as hell to me. I don't think guys sound cool while barking one sentence "in a fight" platitudes. I think this stuff is really terrible, at least this presentation of it. I think I Quit match structure can already have a lot of lags and downtime, but they were dragging things down with dialogue AND I quit back and forth, which means we got a ton of lying around, far too much talking, and far too much of the ref asking if Jey wanted to quit every couple seconds. The only benefit of having this long slog of a match first is that the show still has plenty of time to recover. I liked the Wild Samoans appearance at the end and even though this match bored me to tears I would be undeniably excited by a Reigns/Rock match. 


Elias vs. Jeff Hardy

ER: I've been into comeback Jeff Hardy, and I'm fully into appreciating Hardy as an all time great at this point. But this kind of thing feels like a Raw angle and not something that needed to be on PPV. 


The Miz vs. Otis

ER: I really liked this and how it felt like a late 80s Saturday Night's Main Event match. They worked straight and that benefitted the match, and I loved everything after Otis's big babyface shirt tear. This was a strong Otis babyface performance. He ran into a Miz boot and looked tough as Miz was laying in kicks to the chest. But the wild man shirt tear Otis was him having the fun kind of breakout that will keep someone memorable and durable, like Jim Duggan. Otis hit a great spinning lariat and smashed into Miz, felt like a guy who would be getting huge potential reactions if we had crowds. It isn't hard to picture Otis catching on as a durable cult character with crowds, the same way Santino was but even more pushable as a wrestler. The Tucker turn could have gotten a surprised reaction from the crowd too, like or love where they go with it. This was pretty easily the best match so far on this show, but I hope we get something stronger. 


Sasha Banks vs. Bayley

ER: I am very very excited for this. For the past year plus Sasha has been one of the only people in WWE who actually makes me WATCH. She has had several stretches like this over her career, and has been a consistently great wrestler and character for the better part of a decade now. I think her work in this Bayley feud has arguably been the best of her career. And I liked this match and much preferred their method of storytelling, even if they didn't quite take things the direction I would have wanted. I liked the emotion and I liked a lot of the brawling and selling, but I didn't love the stretches where it became a propped up weapons showcase. When you actually fighting each other gets way more heat than making arts and crafts weapons, just go for the easier option of fighting each other. Sasha contributes the best parts of this for me, but they're a good pair. I loved Sasha's tope and her being crazy enough to get the back of her head whipped into a chair on a sunset flip. She's a CZW wrestler doing joshi drama and it rules. She gets trapped in the ring skirt in a cool way and is a strong enough salesman that the beatings she takes are always more convincing. All of the fighting was great, and all of Sasha's assorted meteoras looked awesome. But the prop set up slowed things unnecessarily, as a strong match was right in front of them with much simpler weapon usage. But Sasha was great at throwing herself face first into ladders and chairs, and her comebacks always played strong. The finish was great, with a Banks Statement around a chair a nasty worthy way to end a long title reign. Banks could honestly be the biggest female star in WWE history. I think she has great potential to break out on a big level. 

PAS: I thought had some very good moments, but ultimately went too long. It felt like a big time Indy wrestling stips match that didn't know when to end. They had a bunch of cool ideas and crazy bumps, and if they had picked four of them and built the match around those four moments it could have been awesome, instead they had twenty ideas and it kind of just kept going. I thought the finish of the match was awesome as was all of Sasha's double knee variations into parts of the cage. They undoubtedly took a ton of cool looking punishment, but at some point twenty five concussive shots with weapons just drags on.

 

Bobby Lashley vs. Slapjack

ER: Okay Bobby Lashley vs. SLAPJACK might be one of the weirder singles matches to land on a WWE PPV. Shane Thorne has never been on a WWE PPV, and hadn't even appeared on a TakeOver in four years. But here he is, debuting on PPV as Slapjack, and I think that is a kind of fun odd thing? It's a fun quick match, with Slapjack bumping around nice on Irish whips into the buckles and flies around for every Lashley throw. His comebacks were convincing and the big schmozz finish was used better here than the Hardy/Elias match. This was a nice palate cleanser and honestly the most interesting use for Retribution might be as a jobber stable. A stable of masked jobbers who all bump makes a ton of sense. Their faces are even covered so you don't have to see their shamed faces. WWE doesn't need revolution angles. They need 6-8 masked jobbers to flesh out their undercards and get fucking worked over by more interesting people. A dedicated crew of people who never win and nobody expects to win, bringing back showcase squash matches and 90/10 mildly competitive matches to establish new offense and alternate finishers. Do that and it will be a more successful idea than whatever Retribution ever leads to. 


Drew McIntyre vs. Randy Orton

ER: This was boring and not at all what I want from pro wrestling. They do not do this high drama wrestling as stage craft bullshit well, and it is infecting these shows. This show especially feels like ACTING has been featured far too much. They're taking advantage of the Our Town set up and getting a little bit too confident with their stage chops. This was slow and masturbatory and I couldn't stay engaged in any way. The end. 



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8 Comments:

Blogger Yerfuneral said...

Watching the preshow not sure what to make of this card. Feels like a bunch of scrub matches thrown in to give more of a shine to the HIAC title matches.

1) 24/7 Title

I guess pushing they are starting the main show with Reigns and Uso they don't need to have a quality opener.
24/7 works better as this random thing thrown in. These planned matches. Not so good.

2) Universal Title Hell In A Cell

The family dynamic and the story are compelling. Unfortunately the title is taking a back seat.
Again I reiterate that this is Brock's belt. Built on quick devastating matches for the most part.
They continued the unnecessarily long Reign's wants to make Uso suffer and play up the resilience of Uso.
Not my thing.

3) Elias vs Hardy

Was playing WWE Supercard and was feeding cards to level a card when ran across Elias and wondered if we was ever going to return or a forgotten layoff.
Happy to see him back and story wise Hardy makes sense but with what they been doing with Hardy not the best return opponent.
Elias needs to be built back up some and so much room for Hardy to continue his growth especially with a brand move.
The actual match was fine as a filler we needed to pull something because we had this draft and need to establish stuff. Unfortunately the dq ending means this has farther to go.
I would have preferred a build on return of Chad Gable, Women's tag, build up Belair, or a variety of other matches.

4) Money in the Bank winner gets the briefcase

Has any wrestler has been hurt by the pandemic more than Otis? Not that WWE listens to the crowd but the loss of a natural reaction and release of the storyteller that helped give him the notice he deserves has got the big man loss in the shuffle.
With the main event picture it makes sense to remove Otis but wish they could have just kept the case with him and turn him into the monster they are using Sullivan for especially with the tag team torn apart by the draft. With some off and on teaming with Big E and we get the build up of both towards wrestlers to be taken seriously.
Shocking ending but with them on two different shows it is a head scratcher.

10:03 PM  
Blogger Yerfuneral said...

5) Smackdown Women's Title Hell In A Cell

Wow, what a complete opposite to the earlier HIAC match. Again we had a great build up that is worthy of this style of match.
Not the biggest fan of objects matches in this day and age but other than some sloppy lay outs and set ups it worked great here since something was happening rather than refs asking questions or both competitors laid out.
Match of the night.

6) US Title match?

Wasn't paying attention enough to know if the actual title was on the line. I was surprised there was an actual finish to the match just was waiting for an expected brawl to break out and build towards Survivor Series.
Retribution guys be thankful for the masks. May help transition back to your NXT or another gimmick.
Had hopes for both the hacker and Retribution gimmicks sorry to see what they have become.

6) WWE Title Hell In A Cell

We have the HIAC that was pretty much a pure cage match, the HIAC that is a cage of weapons of plunder, and with this one we get the one where people get outside, fighting on top of the structure, and someone eventually taking flight. Thanks for covering all the bases; WWE agents. Next year we need The Fiend to pull someone through the ring and give us a cinematic match in an actual Hell.
I got what I expected from Orton and McIntyre going at it again. Like the first HIAC it did go on to long and this feud of matches has gone on too long.
With the moves to RAW though I would prefer McIntyre as champion. I am sure he faced plenty that moved over before but you didn't have a title at stake. He was Corbin's stooge; pretty much.
The Legend Killer thing works but I am not excited for Orton not chasing a belt or facing Styles or Wyatt yet again. That's me though.

I got what expected based on the preshow. Cage matches told their stories and the rest were throw away.
I know WWE is dealing with a lot of behind the scene issues but these last minute bookings give me no reason to watch the weekly shows.

10:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude, R-Truth's been doing the Little Jimmy thing since 2011.

11:35 PM  
Blogger EricR said...

Do people commonly interact with Jimmy? I have not watched many Truth segments over the last decade.

11:54 PM  
Blogger Funkle Joe said...

They're way way way too late with the Miz. He was white hot a couple of years ago for about a year straight and they let that fart dart into the wind.

2:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your review of Orton vs McIntyre does a good job summing up this event for me. Very hard to sit through. If that's what I can expect from WWE at the moment then count me out.

8:26 AM  
Anonymous NintendoLogic said...

I think you guys might be a tad too sanguine about the prospects for Rock/Reigns. The last time Rock worked a match, he looked like any sudden movement would cause a pec or a quad to tear right off the bone. And that was nearly eight years ago. Not only is he pushing fifty, if anything he's more jacked now than he was then. That's a recipe for disaster.

3:13 PM  
Blogger Phil said...

I would imagine they could work Rock vs. Hogan with Rock in the Hogan roll, and if it built right it could be great. I mean even Rock in one of these monologue matches would be better then normal

3:46 PM  

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