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Friday, June 12, 2020

New Footage Friday: FUCK ITS! SUPER DRAGON! NEGRO CASAS! EL DANDY! SILVER KING! FAMILIA DE TIJUANA! EMILIO CHARLES JR.!

Felino/Emilio Charles Jr./Dr. Wagner Jr./Negro Casas vs. Pantera/Silver King/El Dandy/El Texano CMLL 12/16/95


PAS: This was an elimination 8 man tag with eight all time great wrestlers going out there are just flowing for 30+ minutes. We open with Negro Casas and El Dandy ripping it up on the mat and just go from there. Matches like these are always going to be more about the rhythm then any real story, although I did dig it coming down the Wagner boys. Fun Wagner performance as he was just planting people with powerbombs, and of course Dandy and Casas were both tremendous. As I have said a million times Casas is the master of minutia, little reactions or sells or execution on moves, everything matters and counts, and it is fun to watch him flit in and out of a match with so many other all timers.

MD: It's a 4x4 Cibernetico with some of the best talents of the era. What's not to like? According to the old WON I looked at, this was billed as "for La Copa de altra rendimiento which basically means the Cup of high-class submissions," and Dave was baffled at the pinfall finish. Anyway, it was interesting how this flowed. You didn't get a lot of clear pairings with defined beginnings and endings but instead transitions between one wrestler and the next. Of the pairings we did get, Silver King vs. Negro Casas stood out. I always love the little trip spots they work into their exchanges. Very few dives but lots of great exchanges and big moves. Maybe Casas kicked out of one or two more things than he ought of, especially when there were still enough guys around to allow for interference, but that's a small issue, as was the botch on the Felino elimination. Wagner came out of this looking like a big deal. And yeah, while it's cliché for us to say it, Dandy's punches were sure great.

ER: I love having a collection of these types of matches, the kind of match I can throw on in the background if a friend or two are over and everyone in the room gets their own level of enjoyment out of it based on their individual concentration level. The person concentrating the most gets the benefit of seeing small sequences or individual movements, but someone dicking around on their phone will still look up and see Silver King stomping the hell out of Emilio Charles' knee or Dandy getting Casas out of the way with a breathless magistral. They'll see fast moves done by men they don't know who have large perms. It's worked at such a pace that it's perfectly entertaining for every level of involvement. I thought the major standout here was Texano, looking like the stiffest and most aggressive guy in a match filled with stiff strikes and fast aggressive sequences. Everyone was lighting up everyone, like Emilio Charles throwing skeleton rattling corner clotheslines or Wagner crushing Pantera with a sitout powerbomb. Casas is the perfect kind of glue for a match like this, and Dandy comes off so plucky and punchy. I get why Dandy didn't translate to southern American wrestling crowds, but seeing him in his wheelhouse and basking in his enthusiasm is infectious. He looks like the coolest version of Barbra Streisand in A Star is Born. The first three minutes of this match are just Dandy and Casas tearing through brisk mat sequences and really its all you need. This is the kind of thing you can play through a couple times and notice new stuff each pass.


Super Dragon/Rising Son/Pantera vs. Damian 666/Halloween/Nicho El Millonario Rev Pro 11/30/02 - GREAT

PAS: This was Super Dragon really clearly excited to work a Familia de Tijuana match. Most of Dragon's career was fitting people into his formula, so it was fun to watch him fit into a formula. We get some early lucha comedy, some pratfalls, an awesome somersault rana through the post by Dragon and a killer finish. Really enjoyed Rising Son in this as he was ripping off high difficultly ranas with true pros there available to base for him. The kind of match which must have sent the crowd home on a real lucha high.

MD: Whatever I was doing in the early 00s, it wasn't watching RevPro. I guess I was focused on the East coast scene? I have no idea. That made this pretty fresh for me. The biggest problem was that La Familia de Tijuana was just too over as cool heels, getting more cheers by far, to the point where I was sort of embarrassed for Pantera at one point. They didn't adapt the match for the crowd. That said, everyone seemed to be having fun, especially Damien who was goofing a bit more than usual. They did a lot of groin based offense accordingly. Nicho based beautifully but there's nothing new with that. Super Dragon was in there less than Rising Son but his flipping tope out through the corner to set up the finish was breathtaking. The timing of the dives at the end felt a little off to maximize the moment, but I doubt anyone in that crowd cared.


Nasty Russ vs. T-Money vs. Jay Donaldson vs. Samson Walker NWF 8/15/15

PAS: This was a four-way cage match with our boys the Jollyville Fuck-Its against each other along with two other Kentucky area indy guys. It was a spotfest cage match and the Jollyville boys are guys with huge spots, and Donaldson and Walker were right there. Walker is a big guy, even bigger than T-Money and he does some chucking around including catapulting Donaldson into an ace crusher. We don't get a Nasty Russ cannonball, but we do get a crazy moonsault off the cage into Walker's feet, and several nasty cage bumps including one where he goes forehead first into a steel post. Finish was absolutely psychotic and one of greatest cage finishes I have ever seen. Total blast and a great look at some Segunda Caida favorites earlier in their careers.

MD: If you're going to have four guys in a cage, fatal four-way style, this is a pretty good way to do it. This gave everyone time to shine. When guys had to lay around, it was generally warranted. The characters were well-defined. Walker was comedic yet powerful and explosive. Donaldson had the hype man, the step-up kicks, the attitude, and the opportunism. Russ carried himself like a champ, tenacious, with fighting spirit and an easy charisma, and T-Money was an unquestionable force. The setting felt like an indy lucha match that just happens in a public square, which added to the ambiance. The big spots were sufficiently big (killing your own knees by landing on a moonsault from the top is insane and the finishing stretch worked really well). The gaga at the end (Walker faking an injury in a cage match to get the door open; Donaldson dismantling the ring, a unique use of a wrench to say the least, with the ref going above and beyond to cover for how long it was taking, the friends having victory and the belt between them at the end) was fun, even if you don't usually want gaga in a cage match. You definitely felt the stakes throughout, which is what you want in a match like this.

ER: This was exactly the kind of thing I wanted to watch on my lunch break today. A loose cage with four guys willing to die, with a finish so doomed that if I hadn't seen these guys wrestle at a later date I would have just assumed that this did actually end with two of the guys dying. Russ and T-Money have seen a lot of praise from Segunda Caida. Those Boys from Jollyville are really the two that got us into AIW proper, and they're the team that has probably most often been referenced by us as a dream match tag opponent over the past couple years. I loved seeing the ways they acted as a team here, and even more excited for the gigantic moment where they were not together. I am not familiar with Samson or Donaldson, but came away especially impressed with Samson. As Phil said, he's almost like an even bigger version of T-Money, and had insane pop up strength. He shot Donaldson so far into the air a couple times that his body cleared the top of the cage, once for a super high backdrop and once for a fantastic looking cutter; but he also hoisted T-Money up for a sit up powerbomb like it was absolutely nothing at all, jerking him up sky high before bringing him down. I also loved how Samson basically stopped the match with an injury, waited until everyone was otherwise occupied, then dove for the cage door to attempt escape. That feels like Chris Hamrick Cage Match 101 and I love it. Donaldson had one dodgy strike exchange, but did a lot of things I liked. At one point he broke up a move by hitting an enziguiri right into Samson's armpit (intentionally targeted) and hit another enziguiri that really landed. He also ripped apart the ring ropes and strangled Russ with the rope, beating him with a wrench and buckle. Russ always flew into action with his awesome big punch, everyone took big bumps (Russ moonsault into feet was wild), and the finish was spectacular.

Everything about the finish was great, with T-Money about to escape but getting lured back in when Donaldson threatened to brain Russ with a chair. Money gets back in and just destroys Donaldson with a Pounce, sending him flying sideways into the cage. As Money is about to exit, Russ grabs his ankle, and we get a great bit of friendship when Money looks down and says "come on man". He already saved Russ from getting his face rearranged by a chair, and now the guy won't even let him win? Well, he certainly solves that problem, picking Russ up in a bearhug and running him straight through the cage door, sending both crashing to the grass in brutal fashion. T-Money looked like he went straight down, Russ crashed and burned underneath. Money had to leap, holding Russ, over the top rope and through a cage door, so both of their trajectories were beyond fucked. I can't think of many match finishes more spectacular than this one. I would have lost my mind live, then calmed myself down to make sure I didn't witness a death, then lost my mind again.


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Thursday, June 04, 2020

Super Dragon Ain't The One For a Punk Motherfucker With a Badge and a Gun

Super Dragon/Rising Son vs. TARO/Excalibur Rev Pro 7/21/00 - GREAT

PAS: It is hard to remember exactly how ground breaking this stuff was when it happened. This was a couple months after the Low-Ki vs. American Dragon Super 8 final, but for most of the 90s US Indy wrestling was a lot of Stone Cold Stunners and maybe a Mark Shrader suplex. Here you have four guys in a warehouse in the LA suburbs breaking out crazy lucha dives and armdrags along with sick All Japan headrops and unprofessional stiffness, it was a total outlier. This was pretty early for all of these guys, and any time you try such high wire stuff you are going to stumble a bit, but when they hit they hit. Really impressed with Excalibur in this, as he was working a lot like Super Dragon, mixing in some nasty potato shots with his highflying. At one point he just walks over and kicks Rising Son in the side of the head. Not every dive landed, but they were really going for it. Super Dragon blows a Space Flying Tiger Drop, but then hits a perfect tornado Asai moonsault. Maybe needed to slice five minutes or so to be an all timer, but it was without a doubt entertaining. Finish was as gross as your expected, both TARO and Excalibur must have had spines made of superballs.

ER: This match was the main event of the first Rev Pro show I ever traded for, and while I went to a few Rev Pro shows they had moved out of their tiny gym space by the time I made the trip, these tapes had a huge affect on still teenage me. My wrestling tapes were expanding quickly into lucha and Japan, and it felt like these guys were all trading for the same tapes that I was devouring as quickly as I could. Turns out, they all definitely were. What stands out most for me about these early Rev Pro shows were how willing to try EVERYTHING these guys were, and how generous they all were in letting each other try new shit. They had enough character to not come off like over cooperative dance partners, as they filled in gaps between spots with stiff strikes and spots that lead to late match callbacks. So you'd get something early in the match that seemed like a fun dickhead spot, like Dragon just low blowing TARO as TARO fumbled with a headscissors, only for it to turn into a big moment late in the match when TARO low blows Dragon. 


Dragon had this funny habit of using his friends and enemies as weapons, and we got some good moments of him not necessarily throwing Rising Son to the wolves, but of sending him through for the greater good of the match. I loved the awareness of Rising Son going for an Asai moonsault but Super Dragon shoving him back into the ring to stop a charging Excalibur, loved the humor around Dragon hitting nasty dropkicks while TARO and Excalibur were both tied to the tree of woe (with Excalibur constantly lifting himself out of the way so TARO keeps getting merked). The flying in this is pretty insane, with everyone trying multiple dives to the floor. A couple don't work, but most work great. Excalibur's dive was beyond nuts, like he was trying to spring right off Dragon and fly to the back of the gym. Excalibur was always the nuttiest bumper of all of these guys, and that's some painful company to keep. Dragon's corkscrew moonsault was amazing, and I can't get enough of their willingness to crash hard on everything. These early Rev Pro matches had the energy and daredevil-but-still-learning enthusiasm of the best backyard wrestling had to offer, with cool innovation and great taste, with ahead of their time skill. I remember watching these matches while on SoCal wrestling road trips with friends and all of us losing our minds, and how could we not?


Super Dragon vs. Vic Grimes APW 10/5/03 - FUN

PAS: Their match the previous week in LA was really awesome with a terrible finish, this match had a fine finish but never really came together in the ring. Grimes took a ton of the match with Dragon working below, which wasn't what I wanted out of this. Both guys throwing potatoes is rad, Grimes working over Dragon with generic big man offense is less so. Grimes had some nice looking stuff, but a bunch of it was all set up, no conclusion. There was a cool spot where Dragon ducked a running boot and put on a leglock with Grimes leg stuck in the turnbuckles, and Grimes took a nasty spill down some stairs, but I was hoping for another hidden gem, and this wasn't that.

ER: I thought this kicked ass, and didn't have the same problems with it that Phil did. I went to tons of Gym Wars shows and thought I was at this one, but a lot of this didn't seem familiar. This was Grimes recreating one of his big Falls Count Anywhere matches from early Gym Wars (think 1997, and all the major changes that happened in wrestling from '97 to '03) opposite Erin O'Grady/Crash Holly. The stip isn't on this match, but the spirit was there. The APW Gym in Hayward was TINY, enough room for maybe 50 fans (if the roll up doors were opened) and I loved how these two took advantage of that small space and made everyone scatter. The best parts of the match were definitely the first 5 minutes (this was a 20 minute match with nearly half of it clipped out for whatever reason), where they were stiffing the hell out of each other with strikes. Both guys hit real hard, and I let out a loud OOF when Grimes ran a straight leg into Dragon's jaw. That straight leg being played for the coolest spot of the match was a neat touch, as Grimes shows super impressive flexibility by missing a corner yakuza kick, leading to Dragon literally hanging off Grimes' leg like monkey bars. 

As Dragon worked over Grimes' leg some guy yelled "you already fell 40 ft, how bad could this be?" I'll always love a big fat guy hurling himself into danger, and Grimes was big, built like Scott Norton if Scott Norton stopped lifting but kept the same diet. He hits several cool leg lariat variations and a great diving clothesline off the apron that sent both flying through vacated chairs. Back in the day Grimes actually climbed that roll up door like a ladder and leapt off. That didn't happen here, but I like how the memory of it happening was used as a tease. He didn't fall off it, but he did still get rammed mouth first into that door. I would have liked seeing more fighting upstairs, but liked Grimes falling down that narrow Gym staircase (the one Roland Alexander would lounge on with his belly out during matches). Dragon was great at taking offense from such a massive opponent and I would be stunned if Dragon ever worked anyone larger. Him throwing his body into Grimes was the best. He had a couple sick double stomps and a major springboard spinning heel kick that crashed his whole body into the back of Vic's head and neck. I miss those days. I have no idea how I missed this match.


COMPLETE AND ACCURATE SUPER DRAGON


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