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Friday, March 31, 2023

Found Footage Friday: CANNON~! BROOKSIDE~! BALL~! IAN~! GRIZZLY~! ST. CLAIR~!


Cannonball Grizzly vs. Tony St. Clair IWW 2/15/98

MD: Look, Segunda Caida isn't out to be revisionist. We don't wake up in the morning with the idea we have to reclaim John Nord just to be difficult to everyone. We watch matches, we see patterns, we comment on them, conventional wisdom be damned. That said, sometimes, if we see something that we think defies the general narrative, we chase it. This is me chasing Paul Neu to Germany based on a few things we've seen. As a 25 year old, he was notoriously bad, gifted a gimmick that the fans really wanted to get behind with a push to match, but without the skills (either on the mic or in the ring) to make it work. This is him seven or eight years later and this absolutely worked.

These two were fairly frequent opponents over the years, going all the way back to 89 (and I'm not watching 89 Neu; I have limits). St. Clair was 50 here but he was still grizzled and hard hitting. This went about ten minutes before Brookside interfered and things broke down, but it was a solid ten minutes, especially the brawling on the outside. Well they stayed outside too as the ropes weren't tight enough and Grizzly had a problem whenever he tried to go into them or especially up onto them. You'd expect St. Clair to have pretty good forearms and uppercuts, but Grizzly's stuff looked credible too, from just throwing his body at St. Clair to tossing headbutts or shots to the gut. Looking at these three matches as a set, you can't say he wasn't comfortable with these brawls, even if he, at one time, had been the least comfortable wrestler imaginable. This likely set up a Schumman/St. Clair vs Grizzly/Brookside tag and that was probably pretty good too.

ER: It's pretty perfect that Germany's 90s Big Daddy was named Neu. It's a shame he never got another real chance in the states and really did get better with - get this - experience. If PN News was Neu! '86, then 1998 Cannonball Grizzly was Neu!, and then obviously PN Neuz was Neu! '75. Also, David Flair was the least comfortable wrestler ever. PN News always had more body charisma than first year and beyond David Flair. But even Flair seemed to be figuring things out after seven or eight years of doing it. 


Cannonball Grizzly vs. Ian Rotten (Barbed Wire Baseball Bat Match) IWW 5/9/98

MD: This was pretty much what you'd expect, and I mean that in a good way. Ian came out and insulted the crowd, taking his good time to get there. He stalled. He ultimately put over Grizzly, needing to go to underhanded or desperate shots for each advantage that he got, starting with the kick on the handshake, going low a few times, using the bat first, sneaking in a chairshot with one of the chairs I love in this promotion because they fall apart in the best, most dangerous ways. 

And Cannonball sold for a bit and started firing back again and again. He was a pretty solid standing tall babyface in the midst of a hardcore match here, grabbing anything not hammered down. There was one point where he jabbed part of one of those broken chairs into Ian's head and the announcer shouted out "That's the hardcore! That's core! That's core!" as only a German announcer in 1998 could. Shortly before that, during one of his comebacks, he launched himself through the ropes with a giant sized tope just because he could and because he knew he had someone big enough to more or less (more less than more but no one died) base for him. The finish was pretty gnarly as he got out of the way of a charge with the bat causing Ian to smash it into his own chest, and then, with some effort, he pancaked him onto it. Post match they made up and Ian was as carny as could be and everyone left happy. I'd say this was another good showing for Grizzly though. Though both of them were no holds barred, Ian could assert himself more and Grizzly had to work from underneath and then get revenge both for himself and for the crowd and he did a pretty rousing job of it through the blood and the carnage and the violence for the sake of violence.

ER: Did everyone else know that Ian Rotten worked Germany? Everyone else knew that Ian Rotten worked Ox Harley a couple times in one week, smack in the middle of Kentucky, and in between those matches he was main eventing a German indy? The video tape time stamp does not lie. Ian Rotten swings his barbed wire bat like Leatherface's chainsaw in some Hannover college gymnasium, and obviously he is wearing his Ribera Steakhouse satin jacket. He does a long respectful promo that builds to him talking about how ugly everyone in the town was. Ian Rotten has the shittiest body in the building and does biceps poses and Hogan ear cupping like a Will Sasso character. He stalls on the floor and waddles around in this really funny little duck walk whenever he gets on the mic to plead for them to go easy on him. 

It's all really satisfying, because Grizzly isn't a dumb babyface. He finally starts doing something to stop Ian's bullshit and you get a cool big fat babyface kicking and punching and headbutting Ian around ringside. Grizzly bleeds good blood when Ian hits him with the barbed wire bat and rubs it across his forehead, and his suicide dive is a really incredible bump for him. He ploughs through Ian and bounces hard on the floor. Ian platers him with a disgusting chairshot to the face and Grizz does a perfect little cartoon dance into a face flop, then gets up and whips Ian through a bunch of wood slat 1982 Boston Garden ass chairs, using the splintered fragments to Pogo Ian's head. Ian transition back to control by squeezing Grizzly's ball sac like a sponge, some of the most realistic looking rugby violent scrotal offense I've seen. I have no doubt in my mind that Ian has done that to someone in a shitty bar. After getting his balls twisted, Grizzly makes sure to just fall on Ian a few times. Honestly it's really great. This was a fast paced rugged fight with two sloppy bodies and sloppy bar blood over the eyes. Why was nobody brave enough to rate Cannonball Grizzly in 1998? 




MD: Between the commentary (youtube translate as usual) and his post match speech, plus, of course, the non-finish, I get the idea he might have been a last second replacement for someone. It makes sense, because they seemed to be learning the opportunities of the venue as they were going. Maybe my favorite thing in the whole match is Grizzly getting Brookside on the outside after reversing a series of neck-based submissions/chokes and lifting him up and slamming him back first into the ridge of a barstool. It's one of those things that no one plans in advance. You couldn't look at the stool and think "Hey, if I do a lifting bearhug and charge in, it'll look brutal." At least, I don't think you can. It's a moment of being so in the moment that you just heft a guy up and try to figure out how to make it seem like you're doing harm to him, the antithesis of any big tv streetfight now with a ton of set pieces and spots. Doing harm in the situation of the moment is kind of a lost art when it once was the entirety of pro wrestling.

Anyway, Grizzly looked good here overall. He used his size well in all the ways you'd want him to, as a weapon, as a cutoff tool, as an out of control opening creator for Brookside. He wasn't afraid to bump, but most of his bumps were not off of things Brookside did (and when they were, it was on the second or third dropkick not the first), but instead him careening out of control on a missed corner splash or elbow drop on the floor or somersault cannonball senton off the second rope. He slammed Brookside back into the corner to break a hold or absolutely flattened him with a rising pounce or Vader Attack when it was time to cut him off. Even his punches looked pretty good, and certainly him smashing Brookside into pieces of furniture on the outside. Brookside was a game opponent, charging in right from the get go, switching from one hold to the next desperately later, sweeping Grizzly's feet out on a billiards table to create a spectacular bump, running when it was time to run, but it was Grizzly who stood out here, just a guy very confident in his own size and power, the absolutely opposite of all of our memories of him. 



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Friday, February 24, 2023

Found Footage Friday: FINLAY RETIREMENT TOUR~! GRIZZLY!~! BROOKSIDE~! FINLAY, JR~! LAWLER~! SID~!

Fit Finlay vs. Cannonball Grizzly 10/6/12

MD: This was Finlay's last singles match. I hadn't realized that Grizzly was still active this late into the 21st century. He more or less cracked the code by the mid 90s and while you weren't going to get a ton of movement out of these two at this point necessarily, this was buoyed by the advantages of the rounds system, Grizzly's presence and size, and Finlay's selling and ability to strike from underneath.

Watching a rounds match now and again feels like good medicine for your pro wrestling viewing brain. I don't know if it's a sign of getting older myself but I gravitate more towards entry points than finishing stretches and with a rounds match, you get a number of different entry points, which when used smartly and organically, can create different narrative beats. Likewise with the bell at the end of each round. This started with Finlay locking in a few holds and transitioning between one and the next with his usual moments of violence. Grizzly had the size and the strength however, so he took over pretty quickly. The first two rounds had the bell ring with Finlay finally punching out of a hold.

For a meaningful momentum shift to occur, one of two things were necessary: either Finlay would have to turn things around earlier in the round or Grizzly would have to control deeper into the round. The latter occurred as the third round had a long bearhug and when Finlay tried to get out, Grizzly stayed on the back. That meant he could control starting in the fourth as well, but Finlay fought his way out and started to chip away at Grizzly. He pressed forward with that chipping in the fifth, charging right in and working on the arm, with the sixth having Grizzly desperate and charging right in only to have it turned around on him after he made a mistake. So there's a clear narrative through the rounds created by each round playing off of what happened before. It was building to Finlay pressing his advantage and overcoming (which included Grizzly missing a big flip off the turnbuckles) until his second, Brookside, pulled the ropes down and then started unloading on him. That said up the match to come. They still filled a lot of time with the actual match here and they managed it, broken up by the round breaks, primarily with simple holds and hard shots. It's more of what I might expected from 1982 than 2012, but it worked for the crowd due to the skills at play.

ER: I thought this was excellent. I imagine most people will be surprised to learn that PN News was involved in something this good over 13 years after his ECW run. It turns out that Finlay in his mid-50s vs. Cannonball Grizzly in his mid-40s is one of the best Finlay Retirement Tour matches we have. We don't have enough Finlay matches against big fat guys. One of Jerry Lawler's best match types is against big fat guys, and after seeing this it's easy to see Finlay having 4 star matches with Plowboy Frazier. You think of all the big fat men who we never got to see get roughed up by Finlay before flattening him, and it just breaks your heart. Finlay vs. Mabel, Finlay vs. Tenta, Finlay vs. Vader; these are the images that flash like stars behind my eyelids as I pass into slumber. Cannonball Grizzly makes his entrance to the 1992 sounds of Ugly Kid Joe, in 2012, and I easily picture a world where Ugly Kid Joe is a band who successfully tour Europe in the 2010s. I like this idea of Cannonball Grizzly being forever frozen in time in 1992, the peak of his US success. 

But yes, this was excellent. At the time of this writing, it is the greatest Paul Neu match any of us have ever seen. It's also perfect that a German worker's last name is Neu. It makes me want to seek out the work of John Guru Guru or Tom Ash Ra Tempel. This goes 7 rounds and builds slowly and steadily through all of them. It's built around struggling out of convincing and simple holds, and it's done fantastically. Grizzly has really convincing knuckle locks, and is able to hang in and hold onto then even while Finlay is elbowing him from his back foot. Finlay squeezed Grizzly's traps and grabbed at his nose in the 1st round, Grizzly used the first opportunity he got to return the favor why doing it right back in the 2nd. Finlay ends the 2nd by punching Grizzly in the face and then hitting three hard lariats, the first and third especially rough, sending sweat mist exploding off both. Finlay knows that the shot that puts a big man down needs to look like the strongest one. 

Finlay twists his way through a Grizzly bearhug in the 3rd, trying to break it with a leveraged judo throw and getting Grizzly off his feet but not over, turning in the bearhug to try and find any way out, ending when he gets whipped hard into the buckles. I wish we had gotten a 20 minute Finlay/Andre match that was just Finlay trying to find ways out of a bearhug until Andre just fell on him. Grizzly builds off that bearhug and turnbuckle whip in the 4th, immediately throwing elbows into Finlay's kidneys and locking on the bearhug with his hands clasped over them. Finlay finally getting the headlock takeover out of the bearhug felt like a huge escalation and I love how it took a lot out of him, finally lifting Grizzly off his feet enough to turn him over but walking around after like it wasn't quite worth it. 

Finlay pounces on Grizzly's limbs in the 5th while the German commentary still talks about Ugly Kid Joe. Finlay keeps adjusting his leg positioning while working an arm lock, keeping a wide base that looked impossible to get away from. The ropes were Cannonball's only possible escape. When he gets back in the ring he throws two full arms into the side of Finlay's head that make him look like Vader, but more so like Fat Joe wrestling like Vader. I think it's because Vader never had hot dog neck. There's a memorable fist fight to start the 6th and Finlay in his mid-50s still takes the hardest bumps into the turnbuckles since Bret. Grizzly missing an elbowdrop feels like as big of a nearfall as any actual offense you could do to him. Finlay starts the 7th by finding a fourth (at least) new way to painfully run into the turnbuckles, the top buckle hitting underneath the side of his ribcage, staggering him out into a real shutdown clothesline. Finlay's bump to the floor - through the ropes because of a traitorous Brookside low bridge - was a real surprise. Finlay is the absolute master at taking bumps that look like something he was not expecting to take. Brookside's attack on Finlay and the ring crew might be the most violent I've ever seen him. Brookside was kicking at Finlay's ear like he wanted to send him into retirement equilibrium-free.  


Fit Finlay/David Finlay Jr. vs. Dan Collins/Robbie Brookside 12/22/12

MD: Cagematch says this is both Fit's last match and David Jr's first one, and Cagematch would know in this case, I imagine. It wasn't exactly what I expected after the challenges following Brookside's betrayal, but it probably meant a heck of a lot more to Fit than a straight one-on-one street fight would have. David was what you'd expect here given his first match and his pedigree: slight in frame, flopping about with his selling, some promise when it came to shots in the corner and inspiring sympathy in this very specific situation. He had Collins and Brookside to move him about the ring when he was taking a beating and most of his offense was tandem stuff with his dad. Likewise, the structure went how you'd figure, a cycle of Finlay controlling, of David losing the offense and eating a beatdown, of that beatdown creating a handicap situation that Finlay had to overcome and of Finlay first overcoming, second smashing people into things (the apron, a table, any hard surface he could find), and then letting his son join in until he was overtaken again. It was effective and they filled a decent amount of time with it, never losing the crowd despite David's inexperience. With ten years of retrospect and considering that Finlay, Jr.'s had a pretty successful career so far, you can hardly imagine a better end to Finlay's career than hitting stereo finishers with his son in the middle of a German ring against some old rivals in front of an appreciative crowd. It was nice that he got to smash some heads in the process. 


Jerry Lawler vs. Sid Vicious NWA Main Event 11/7/08 

MD: Phil and Eric had reviewed a Lawler vs Sid match from 07 which sounds like an all time great Lawler performance and an all time terrible Sid performance. This pulls more towards the middle for both, as it was a pretty good Sid performance and your standard solid Lawler one. This was on the show that celebrated Lawler's 35th year in the business so you imagine Sid was a little more inspired because of that. He had Jimmy Hart at ringside. Lawler had Jim White, his first tag team partner with him though he was a non factor. They worked a bunch of Sid slams early and a Lawler attempt which let Hart mock him on the house mic (and set up the big moment towards the end). Having Hart here probably made it a little more successful than a similar gambit the year prior. After eating a few Lawler punches with a snap of the head but no overall selling, Sid cut him off with a slam out of a side headlock which was simple but effective. Lawler was going to make Sid's stuff look amazing, of course, but the visual that comes from Sid's size makes that pretty easy. It's not like he has great punches, but when he comes down with more of an arc with them instead of poking forward, it gave Lawler plenty to work with. They moved from hold (or choke) into shots, into a move (like a side slam or legdrop) pretty steadily here, with Hart slipping in shots when he could. Lawler, despite it being his night, still used a low blow to start his comeback. Sid not registering the punches early meant it mattered more when he did register them on the comeback and between that, the slam paying off, and Hart's interference backfiring, everything built exactly as it ought to have. Sid was fairly inspired on this night but I'm not certain this would have worked quite so well with anyone but Lawler.

ER: Sid felt really uninspired working in front of that 2007 NEW crowd, and while he doesn't "do a lot" here, it at minimum felt like he and Lawler were at least having the same match. In 2007 it felt like Lawler was having his own epic while Sid was fulfilling an obligation that he regretted. The only real difference between Sid here and Sid there, was his presence here always felt like it was building to the match's climax, easily controlling Lawler with his size in a way that was clear we were always building to a fired up Lawler finish. There is so little actual offense in this match, just a handful of bodyslams, some clubbing strikes, a big side slam, and a smothering hold, but they both knew how to milk the thriftiness of it all. Sid's bodyslams looked big and Lawler knows how to expertly sell a large man's bodyslam as well as he knows how to breathe air. 

Lawler tries punching Sid early and gets nowhere, but gets much farther when he punches and kicks Sid in the balls before punching face. The camera crew doesn't know how to film Lawler's fistdrop and they shoot his kneeling punches from his back, but the energy is there. The strap lowering into a dropkick was great, and the bodyslam payoff was real. I love heel Jimmy Hart getting involved. Hart mastered the old man big bump/non-bump, knowing exactly how to get up on an apron and get knocked off it without actually doing anything super dangerous. It's just another example of how everyone in this knew how to do the most without actually dying. How many of the Lawler/Sid USWA matches do we have? Any? It feels like mid 90s Lawler/Sid would have been the best version of their crossed paths.


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Friday, October 02, 2020

New Finlay Friday: FINLAY!! CANNONBALL!! FINLAY!! ICE TRAIN!! FINLAY!! ALEX WRIGHT!!


Finlay vs. Alex Wright CWA 8/10/93-GREAT

MD: Really good Finlay performance here as he led Wright through the paces, including beating on his back for almost the whole match. He'd hit these dead on elbow smashes to the back that you never see guys use but that looked absolutely brutal. Wright's job was to hit big athletic comebacks and then get cut off. He wasn't nearly as good as that as he'd be in a year or two, and given what Finlay gave him to work with, he had a long way to go with drawing sympathy as well. Honestly, having his dad out there on the floor probably got the crowd into it as much as anything else. I loved Finlay's tunnel-vision here, and it paid off all the way to the finish and post-match challenges.

PAS: This was pretty great stuff, Wright was only 18 in this match, and Finlay is the perfect opponent for a green son of a legend with some flash. I imagine he would have had a great Eddie Colon match in 1999 or a nifty Mike Von Erich match in 1984. Finlay bumps big for the fancy stuff Wright does, really putting over being flummoxed by a couple of big dropkicks and backflips. Of course when it is time to get down to brass tacks, Finlay is Finlay. He really punishes the kid, mangling his back with these sick elbows to the spine, hurling him over the top rope, dropping him with short clotheslines. He was really methodical, pounding on the lower back brutally until he gets the tape out with a chiropractic Boston Crab. Cool match and totally made me want to see Steven Wright pay him back.


Finlay vs. Ice Train CWA 11/23/94-FUN

MD: Solid Finlay work, getting Ice Train through this one. That meant a shine where he stooged and bumped and stalled and got crashed into. When he took over it was due to a missed corner charge, and some really great stomach-targeting. Whenever he was able to cut Train off or take back over, it was because he went back to the mid-section. The thing with Finlay is that it's enjoyable just watching how he moves. There was a point where he dropped down and out of the ring to take Ice Train with him and beat on him out there and the way he just compacted himself down and out while still hanging on to Ice Train showed a mastery of his body and his ring positioning and how to control his opponent. With a lot of wrestlers, there's no point in even looking for stuff like that but with Finlay it's all over the place where you wouldn't necessarily expect it. The match ended a little silly with Ice Train having a hissy fit and crushing the ref and Finlay together, but I enjoyed the deep care heel Finlay had for the ref after the DQ win.

ER: Ice Train always comes off like such wasted potential, but Finlay is literally the perfect opponent to drag something good out of wasted potential. Train is a guy who looks like he would hit harder than he does, but Finlay is someone who knows how to sell any level of strike and make them look punishing. He builds the match around a couple of Train power spots and one of his strengths (charging avalanches) and it's the kind of performance you could easily see Bret Hart having with Ice Train. I view Finlay and Hart fairly similarly, as they're both strong at using their established tools to make any level of opponent shine, so you see similar recognizable things match to match and you see the different ways they use them to showcase different sized and different skilled opponents. Finlay throws a lot of energy at Ice Train's gut, dropping a great elbowdrop to the stomach (how often do you see an elbowdrop to the stomach? It's almost always the chest but this is clearly thrown intentionally at the stomach), and a bombs away, and even manages to drag Train down with an abdominal stretch (which he turns into a big twisting grab of Train's muzzle, a trick he used a couple times). I like the way Finlay deflated and dropped down to a knee to put over being hit by a Train, especially loved his sell after an avalanche. I kind of liked the silly finish, with Ice Train getting upset with the ref and tossing him into Finlay in the corner before flattening them both with an avalanche. These two weren't really around a the same time in WCW, yet matched up a ton of times in Germany. For all the times they fought I would have expected a bigger performance from Ice Train, but Finlay is always going to be the constant in a match like this. 

PAS: This was fun. Both guys have nice forearm smashes, and this was a match built almost entirely around forearm smashes, kind of less violent version of a Wahoo vs. Flair chop battle. Ice Train's big selling point as a wrestler is his barrel chest, and Finlay just winged shots into that chest, and Train used it as a battering ram nicely.  Certainly could have had a bit more flash, and I really though the rounds system hurt this match's momentum, but I was happy I watched it. 


Finlay vs. Cannonball Grizzly CWA 11/96-GREAT 

MD: People undervalue how over News was with the crowds in 1991. They don't overstate his lack of presence in the ring that year. Somewhere over the next four or five, and with a convenient heel character, he did work it out. Finlay's working face here, and he takes a big chunk of his early, maybe more than you'd like. His go to way to hurt big guys seems to be the nerve hold, into a nosepull, into a forearm to the top of the head, and it's pure Fit. Lots of corner charges here, including some missed, but they all look great. Fit damages his own shoulder on one (by that point of the match, he really needed to throw himself at Grizzly to hurt him) and shortly thereafter, is able to dodge a splash, not by rolling over but almost by contracting himself into a small space to cover for the shoulder pain. Great and unsurprising attention to detail. They matched up well enough that it's a shame this didn't go a little longer.

PAS Grizzly really looks like Vader in this HH, and this feels like what a Vader versus Finlay match would look like.  I loved Finlay using double stomps, perfect way to fight a guy that looks like a crash pad. Grizzly looked really good in this, doing a somersault counter to an armbar, awesome looking enziguiri and a great bump over the top rope. Pretty wild he never got a WCW run during this period. Really should have at least gotten a Master P Army spot. Finlay was great as you would expect, coming off like a real tough guy and taking a pretty nasty shoulder bump. You could tell he was excited to have such a big guy in front of him to pound on.

ER: I really liked this, thought they made an excellent pairing, and came away super impressed with Grizzly's selling for Finlay. Now, sometimes guys are just forced to sell for Finlay, but this was Grizzly selling damage very well and selling strikes excellently. I dug how he came away holding his mouth after Finlay rammed it into the turnbuckles, and at this point he had finally gotten good at stagger selling, nicely rocking and swaying as Finlay threw shots or flew at him with big lariats. They both really focused on wrecking torsos, with Grizzly aiming to crushing Finlay with an elbowdrop dearly, Finlay leaping right onto his chest with a couple double stomps, Grizzly just standing on Finlay's chest while gloating. Finlay just hopping on Grizz with both feet is like what I used to do to my dad when he would get home from work and lie down on the couch, just climb up the back of the couch and leap onto his big belly. The missed shots lead to our spectacular bumps, with Finlay taking his great shoulder to ringpost bump and Grizzly not only taking a big bump through the ropes to the floor, but then a HUGE bump on a missed corner charge, basically doing the fastest fat man combo Jerry/Slaughter bump. We don't get a ton of Finlay vs. big fat guys, and I loved every bit of this.


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Friday, February 21, 2020

New Footage Friday: FINLAY!! MUTOH! 2 COLD!! RAMBO! BORGA!!

CWA Euro Catch Festival 12/16/95

2 Cold Scorpio vs. Danny Collins

PAS: This was a pretty basic mid 90s juniors match. There were a couple of nifty flourishes by both guys,  Collins had a nifty jumping rana and I always love Scorpio's standing flip leg drop. Still I thought most of this was relatively dull, I think I would still like high end 90s juniors matches, but the average ones are really not my speed. Always happy to get more Scorp footage, but this was mostly skippable.

MD: I'm a little bit higher on this than Phil, but just a bit. Collins got good effort marks at least, and had a lot of stuff, even if his ambition was sometimes bigger than his prowess. Scorpio was a natural in front of this crowd, coming out to his Slam Jam theme, dancing to Can't Touch This between rounds, etc. He was great at mixing his fighting from underneath with his selling, garnering both sympathy and admiration, but there's nothing new there. It's always nice to see it in a different setting. There were some stuff that felt off, both in Collins' execution, but also an arm drag or two that felt like they came way too late in the match. It was fine.


Ice Train vs. Big Titan

PAS: This was pretty fun, I am surprised that Ice Train never really went anywhere. He is big, agile and hit hard. I feel like he just got caught up in the churn of WCW, with too many guys under contract. Feels like the WWF might have been able to do something with him. I would have liked to see this run back a couple of years later with Big Titan as fake Diesel.  I especially liked Train's big second rope shoulder block, and Titan had a nice stiff clothesline.

MD: On a show with a number of big guys, Titan worked kind of small here, getting off his feet a lot on offense. I've heard him complain he was frustrated having to work like Diesel in the WWF because it neutered a lot of what he liked to do. I don't think it'd always have worked, but it did make for a nice contrast with Ice Train here. Train was still very green but charismatic with a couple of big memorable spots and a good act. I think he would have really done well ten years later, towards the end of the territories where he could go into a place for a few weeks as a special attraction tag team partner and move on before the act got stale.

ER: This was fine, but served more as proof that WCW really figured out how to present Ice Train. Ice Train matches in WCW were always 4-6 minute power sprints, so you got a big powerslam, big chops, big shoulderblocks, and then got the hell out of there. Here you see what happens with 10 minutes, and it's mostly Big Titan holding cravates and chinlocks. But this was fine! Because we also got a couple of great big man vertical suplexes, a couple of Train's big flying shoulder tackles, a beast of a standing lariat from Train, big missed splash from Titan, and Titan *did* have a nice cravat. I love the cravat variation of just pressing both palms against one side of a guy's head, rather than one hand twisting the chin. Here Titan just mashed palms into the left side of Ice Train's head, really introducing Train's right ear to his shoulder. Ice Train is a real heavy lander, one of the heaviest, and it rules. Other guys are bigger, but Ice Train lands with such weight that it really makes simple things like a standing splash or legdrop look colossal. And I also just realized that while Big E has the best standing splash of modern wrestlers, Ice Train probably had the best of his era. Big E is really working a spiritual Ice Train successor gimmick and that somehow makes me like both of them more.

Kama vs. Viktor Kruger

PAS: I thought this was a fine CWA heavyweight match. I am surprised that I liked Kama more than Kruger in this match. Kruger seemed a bit off, and Kama had a nice taped up right hand, and wins with a great looking huge spinebuster. I think I am more into C- heavyweight matches, then C- juniors matches like Scorp vs. Collins.

MD: Pre-match Kama came off like more of a star than he ever had in his career with any of his characters. He rode in on the back of a motorcycle to Thunderstruck and looked jacked (gassed?) to the gills. He juts seemed larger than life. The first minute or so worked out too, with him bumping around a bit. I think the reality of his bulk caught up to him after that, however. Kruger was disappointing. For a guy who clapped so much on the way to the ring, he really didn't seem to have any idea how to engage the crowd when working out of holds, and this match needed that badly.

ER: This was a pretty dull match with a very fun first 1 and final 3 minutes. Putting the best stuff in the first and final minutes at least makes it feel like a better waste of time, and saving big moments for the end is a smart structure for guys without a ton of big moments in them. I always forget how big Kruger is, as Kama is a huge man and Kruger matched him for size, basically Mike Awesome without any actual highspots. Kama routinely has heavyweight "pulling" matches, which are a time filler kind of heavyweight match that revolves around each guy just kind of pulling the other guy into things. Every transition is some variation of "okay I'm in the corner, now I'm going to pull you into the corner and now I am out of the corner, throwing slow punches at you, and then you kinda pull me into the corner and do the same" and you end up with a couple of giants just hitting soft shots and tugging each other around the ring for 10 minutes. But I loved Kama bumping for Kruger's shoulderblocks to start, and the big stuff down the stretch plays great: Kama's big Vader bomb into knees, Kruger's fantastic full steam lariat that sends Kama over the top to the floor, and Kama's high rotation spinebuster finish.

August Smisl/Tony St. Clair vs. Cannonball Grizzly/John Hawk

MD: The more I see Grizzly in these matches, the more I like him. He's a superheavyweight heel with a couple of good power spots that engages the crowd and that can go chickenshit and work vulnerable. That's one of my sweet spots if it works as a contrast to other things going on and here it absolutely did. This hit a lot of marks. Grizzly and Hawk controlled the ring well enough with plenty of cheating. St. Clair was fiery on the outside to screw his partner by distracting the ref. For the only tag match on the show, it was lacking a hot tag in the stretch. The first face win was off of a lightning power move reversal. The second one was off of a lightning cross body. There was a hot tag in the middle but so distanced from either of the finishes that it made the whole thing feel anti-climactic. None of the wrestling was bad. It just needed to be organized differently.

Fit Finlay vs. Franz Schuhmann

MD: This was excellent. Finlay was top notch here and Schuhmann was more than game in keeping up with him. Finlay was do-no-wrong beloved here which gave this a face-vs-face star-vs-star feel despite Fit absolutely acting like Fit, wrestling a merciless style and increasingly taking what advantages he could. He had a sort of shrugging charm that won the day. This went seven rounds with round three standing out especially as Finlay just moved from one piece of brutal business to the next, each one with purpose, always keeping the crowd engaged and active. It started with a powerbomb and ended with the reversal of one, telling a mini story within a few minutes. Schuhmann was able to get his revenge in the fourth (though it wasn't quite linear), with Finlay mounting an ambush at the start of the fifth and the two of them going back and forth until the end. The finish, with Fit stopping Schuhmann's momentum by catching him off the ropes and hitting the tombstone he was only able to attempt (and was reversed on) back in the fourth, was made all the better by Finlay waving his arms in elation right before he hit it.

PAS: I loved this too, mid 90s Finlay is pretty close to wrestling perfection and Schuhmann is a great dance partner. Schuhmann has really great looking suplexes, really popping his hips and dumping Finlay on the back of his neck. Finlay was a big bumper at this point too, he just flies over the top rope, and takes all of Schuhmann's moves in painful ways, Schuhmann applies maybe the greatest drop toe hold I have ever seen with Finlay looking like he tore his MCL going down. Of course he is an all time great offensive wrestler too, and we get some of the great Finlay signature spots, knees right to the nose, hard unforgiving bodyslams and an absolutely brutal hard tombstone finish. Rounds match can always be a bit choppy, but the actual wrestling in this match was tremendous.

ER: I honestly don't think there is another wrestler better at execution, illusion of violence, or selling than Fit Finlay. I think Lawler is his best competition, but 90s Finlay especially looks like my exact vision of perfect pro wrestling. This is one of his greatest performances (think of the ground that covers), and it's even better because this also happens to be the greatest performance I've ever seen from Franz Schuhmann. Finlay has this special ability of elevating nearly every opponent to his game, not necesarily working a match around an opponent's strengths, but actually getting his opponents to work up to him. If they don't they'll get left behind by way of cruel beating; if they're game, he rewards them by making their offense look better than ever before. In this match alone Finlay rewards a great dropkick by flying impossibly fast over the top to the floor, takes a bridged German suplex so perfectly that it should be motion captured, and takes a drop toehold and manages to make it look like Jaws was biting through his leg. This match could have been a total flop, and this drop toehold would have made it infinitely memorable. Schuhmann grabbed such a perfect grapevine of that leg, and Finlay sold it in a few nasty stages: Screaming out in anguish as it's applied, buckling a knee while fighting to stay standing, going down hard and grabbing for his leg when he realized his struggle could have injured him further. What a moment. His offense was as great as expected, one of the few men who can make a nerve hold genuinely look like the best way possible to bring a man to his knees in pain, grabbing Schuhmann's trapezius and forcing him to the mat, yanking his head back by the maxilla, and dropping a 12 to 6 elbow right across Schuhmann's nose. It's a classic Finlay sequence, and yet he never makes it look like he's going through any kind of motions. The tombstone Finlay finishes this classic with is one of the greatest I've seen, Finlay joyously catching Schuhmann and dropping hard to his knees, Schuhmann held cruelly at a bent neck angle before being left to flop dead to the mat. This was magic.

Keiji Mutoh vs. Jim Neidhart

MD: I'm not even sure how I'd classify this, maybe as an "overperforming, lost, late Neidhart performance." I really liked his presence here, coming out to Alice Cooper, chumming around with Kauroff, having Mutoh pull his beard, clubbering him on a table on the outside. It got a little hold heavy in the middle (though I was happy to see the Anvilizer, his Summer 1993 WCW finishing Cobra Clutch). This was ultimately more of a Neidhart match than a Mutoh match, though he got some of his stuff in at the end, but I'm not sure it would have worked any other way. Honestly, I think we all would have been better off with Collins/Neidhart vs. Scorpio/Mutoh.

Rambo vs. Ludwig Borga 

MD: Midway through this match (at the point where Rambo outright missed a jumping back elbow), I had the conscious thought "Well, at least Eric is probably going to go out of his way to watch the Finlay match too." This wasn't good. Rambo was more giving than I've seen him in this footage, but it didn't really matter. This had the same sort of dynamic as Finlay vs. Schumann, just with more of a heavyweight "clash of the titans" feel, but couldn't at all follow it. Too much of the crowd was behind Borga and while he laid in the cheapshots and eased into the heel role in the match, he just didn't go far enough with it for what they were trying to do. He neither lost nor excited the portion of the crowd that had been cheering him, so Rambo could only get so much support. It built into a few good nearfalls towards the end but then just sort of ended in a way no one in the crowd would even remember the next day. It probably could have used more violence on the outside as well. It just needed more sharply drawn lines, really just more volume on everything that it tried to do.

ER: I was actually really into this, and perhaps all the HBK tribute acts of all shapes and sizes have just made me more excited for slower paced 90s house show heavyweight style. I thought Borga was great here, really played a brick wall bully who still bumped for bigger Rambo spots. If you looked at the overall match you could think that Borga dominated this one, but there were key moments at the ends of rounds that showed Rambo may have been a victim of bad timing. Borga was much slower getting up at the end of the 2nd and 3rd rounds, the first after attempting to throw Rambo with a suplex while trapped in a headlock, and the second after eating a nice vertical suplex back into the ring. After two straight round breaks of Borga being slow to his feet, it's no surprise that he ends the next two rounds with cheap shots and warnings. You get the sense that Rambo could have beaten him had his timing and placement been a little more fortunate. But Borga's performance elevated this for me, as he works slow bruiser really well, making his strikes really resonate and allowing time for them to be sold. Big Borga hooks to the kidneys or breadbox look devastating, so I love that he doesn't make them useless with overuse, instead landing one big shot at a time, one big punch to the gut, one big downward strike elbow right to Rambo's chest, one big clubbing shot across the shoulder blades, really getting across the power of his strikes.

I liked the way Borga laid out big misses that sometimes later lead to big hits, like a big missed avalanche that gave Rambo an early opening, that we later got to see cashed in when Borga actually hits this big avalanche (getting enough height to also get tangled in the ropes, which made it look like the impact of the avalanche was really drove home); or, when he got brought back in the ring with that vertical suplex, and later walked Rambo over to the same location to give Rambo his own suplex, dropping him hard across the top rope with a front suplex. I even loved how Borga handled Rambo's awkward missed back elbow, as instead of selling it (which I imagine a missed leaping back elbow would almost always lead to both guys lying on the mat figuring out how to recover), Borga immediately drops down and grabs a nice grounded side headlock. Borga also showed tons of weakness on the floor, crashing into a table that gets shoved into the crowd, then eating an awesome ringpost shot (he and Lesnar really show that 100% of the guys who look like them, also take really great post shots), always going down for Rambo's biggest shots. The finish could have been better, as I kept expecting a Rambo final comeback, but instead they just had Rambo die a slow death. But even down the stretch I was into the attention to details from Borga, like his super low swinging missed clothesline, or the specific way he choked Rambo over the bottom rope, or how he just stepped right on Rambo's face as Rambo was trying to get back in the ring. That kind of stuff will always elevate a match for me, and Borga had plenty of that.

PAS: I am sort of in the middle on this match, don't dislike it at much as Matt, but think Eric is pretty severely overrating it. Borga is a guy who is always fun to watch and I will always be down for him bulldozing someone in the corner and unloading those beautiful hooks to the body. I am someone who always loved throwing body shots back in my boxing days, and Borga is really one of the only professional wrestlers ever to make a body shot look great. Rambo was real bad in this though, the best Borga matches have been him going to war with a fellow big hitters like Hashimoto or Vader, Rambo just had nothing on his stuff, and it was tough to watch Borga try to credibly sell for bad looking corner punches or lame bulldogs. He tried his best, but this was a one man show, and as much as I enjoy Borga he isn't pulling off both sides of a match.


COMPLETE AND ACCURATE FIT FINLAY

COMPLETE AND ACCURATE LUDVIG BORGA


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Friday, January 03, 2020

New Footage Friday: CWA THE FINAL WAR '95

CWA Final War 12/14/95

Joe-Joe Lee vs. Rod Price

PAS: This was a US rules match, which I assume means no rounds. Price is a Global guy who is probably best known for accidentally getting his hair weave ripped out by Chris Adams. I was kind of surprised he never went anywhere, he had a good 90s roid belly look and had pretty solid execution. Joe Joe Lee is Satoshi Kojima during his excursion. This was pretty good without ever moving into great. I really liked Lee's jumping elbows, and the finish was some fun BS with a chair.

MD: I concur that it's strange Price never ended up somewhere else. I have fond memories as a kid of watching him team with Tatum in Global and he's perfectly fine here a few years later. They had a more than solid opening exchange, just good action. As the match went on, I could have went for some transitions/cutoffs that weren't so grab-and-arm-and-kick, even if it did make the hotshot towards the end more memorable. It was the first iffy finish on a night of them.

ER: I thought this was great, and was my favorite thing on the show. I was not expecting that to be the case, even though I really like Rod Price and Kojima. Rod Price is like if Candido went through the Power Plant instead of Tennessee indies. Price bumps hard and strikes hard, takes a couple different big bumps to the floor (one through the ropes and one over), and comes off like a proto Luger. Lee isn't as charismatic as he'd become a little later, but his repertoire was solid; I really liked his mule kick (and the way Price sold it), and was impressed at the way he flew into a brick wall like Price. Their scrap on the floor was good, with Price really planting a hard chair into Lee's back, a nice cherry to all the genuinely great stand and trade we got in the match. these two went it and had a top to bottom cool match.


2 Cold Scorpio vs. Jim Neidhart

PAS: I thought this was great. It is a streetfight and all you need to have a great streetfight is two guys willing and able to throw heat, which we had here. Neidhart has great looking clubbing forearms, and was really laying them in, while Scorp would use more fast and sharp combinations, including going body to head. Most of Scorp's flying backfired, as he crashed and burned on a couple of bodypress attempts, he also takes a great bump where Scorp basically does a Flair Flop off the apron to the floor. Weird to have a DQ finish in a streetfight, but Neidhart trying to choke Scorp to death does warrant one.

ER: The layout to this was a strong way to handle a style clash like this, as Neidhart is a limited guy in singles matches whose limitations were turned into strengths here. All he had to do was lay in hard forearms and kneel on Scorpio's throat, and Scorpio was in charge of moving the action around the ring and ringside. Neidhart has big forearms, and he did almost nothing but smash Scorpio in the chest and face with them, coming off in a 0.7 Vader in the process. Scorpio eats those shots and throws quick strikes back, but routinely gets smothered and bullied by Neidhart. In fact the longer I think on it the more I wish we got at least two bigger Scorpio comebacks before the brutal choke DQ. Scorpio really got smothered for 80% of this, and he's someone who can believably go toe to toe with Anvil. The finish looked great, with the tree of woe choke bending back Scorpio's neck, but Scorpio needed a couple more of his violent impact moves.

MD: This almost felt like a Neidhart showcase by default. He was a tank in there and it was on Scorpio and his explosiveness to figure out how to deal with him. It meant that all of the cutoffs were Scorpio basically making a desperate mistake. Again, a weird finish though it was intense enough. Just out of place in what the match was supposed to be. Also, Neidhart should have always come out to Alice Cooper.


Tony St. Clair vs. Danny Collins 

PAS: This is a Piratekampf match which is a chain match/flag on a pole match, a European specific match time which pretty much always delivers. Collins was a real nasty fuck in this match, really laying in all of the shots, and grinding the chain into St. Clairs mouth. I always love the way leverage is used in these Piratekampf matches, lots of cool looking tug of war spots with a guy trying to drag someone else up a pole. I thought the finish was great with St Clair crotching Collins on the top turnbuckle and climbing up him to the flag. This was a midcard Piratekampf so it didn't have the same of sort of gritty war of attrition qualities that the other Piratekampf matches we have seen, but it is a great gimmick and two great wrestlers performing it.

ER: This was really good, and now that I've seen a few Piratekampf matches it really feels like those working the stip treat it very seriously. This was a rough hitting match, Collins especially working this like a darker haired Finlay with awesome punishing strikes, and both guys took nasty yanks and hard bumps while going after the flag. Collins meanness really carried this through, and St. Clair was a real strong babyface, and the crowd was super into him. Collins is a guy I need to seek out more, and I'm sure we will get to more of him with this new wave of German handhelds. The filming of this match was really great, and totally added to the action. The work was tight enough that I wasn't thinking most of the time how I was watching a handheld.

MD: St. Clair coming out to Simply the Best is some glorious wrestling BS. I liked their familiarity with the gimmick, little things early on like Collins trying to cut distance by stepping on the chain only to get yanked off his feet by a ready St. Clair or towards the end when St. Clair uses the chain to make Collins lose his balance on a corner whip to shift the momentum. These tend to be the best possible "on-a-pole" sort of matches because the chain keeps distance short and allows for some nasty shots and knockdowns. This didn't quite get to that level of bloody meanness but it was fun for what it was.



John Hawk vs. Viktor Kruger 

PAS: This was a Texas Bullrope match, and had some of the flaws of that match, lots of dragging to corners and less action. The action we got was pretty good though. Kruger throws a mean running elbow, and I really liked the finish with Kruger breaking up the turnbuckle tapping by tackling Hawk to the floor, but still losing when Hawk hit the turnbuckle from the floor. There was some weird matwork at the beginning and a double kneebar spot, which I guess was Kruger bringing BattlArts to the ranch. Weird to see Bradshaw with that ponytail, the JBL persona is so ingrained with me.

ER: I am a big fan of someone being a "Master of the _____", so Bradshaw coming out to Rednex while being billed as the Master of the Bullrope Match is going to be right up my alley, even if at the end of this I much rather would have seen a straight Hawk/Kruger match. But it's almost always going to be a more interesting match if the focus is on asskicking rather than "reaching for things". These are two I want to see in a slugfest, though I still liked little things they did, like trading stomach kicks while entwined in a knuckle lock, and I am admittedly a sucker for those turnbuckle reaching spots where one guy is doing everything to hold that rope taut while the guy reaching is using all his might to stretch for the buckle. It's a fun bit of actual strength that could go wrong if one of the guys slipped just a little. The finish was the most inspired section of the match, and ending on a high note really does have the power to shine up nearly anything: Bradshaw is going for the fourth and final turnbuckle, so Kruger spears him through the ropes to the floor, then accidentally lariats the ringpost, allowing Hawk to leap back up to the apron and hit the turnbuckle. Rednex play us out.

MD: I struggled a bit with the turnbuckle count here. Bradshaw was already able to channel his inner jerk well. Kruger seemed to be almost as big as him and they played it like a clash of the titans for the most part. Both this and the piratekampf match had the wrestlers almost constantly going for the win which was appreciated but it didn't necessarily make for the most compelling match here. As Eric said, the finish was inspired. It's tough to get a good bullrope match finish and I'm surprised Bradshaw didn't steal this for later on.


Big Titan/Cannonball Grizzly/Fit Finlay vs. August Smisl/Ice Train/Rambo

PAS: This was a cage match with the cage being around the ringside area rather then the ring. The cage basically served the same purpose as a ringrails, just something to get irish whipped into. Finlay was mostly just cheap shotting guys on the outside, he is about the best guy in history to watch throw cheapshots, but I would have liked to see him in ring more. Most of the match was WCW Pro style heavyweight wrestling, lots of Big Titan vs. Rambo. I did really like the Ice Train vs. Cannonball Grizzly stuff, Ice Train had really explosive offensive, that was a WCWSN feud that we just missed by a year or two.

ER: I liked this, but with the talent involved I was expecting more. We still got plenty of good moments, but there were also things we didn't get (like Finlay vs. Train, but instead we were getting tons of Titan vs. Rambo). Finlay's huge torpedo shoulderblocks in the corner were a major highlight for me, and the Train/Grizzly culmination was another big moment. And match that has a jacked up Ice Train hitting a wooly mammoth powerslam on Grizzly is going to have a high floor. Ice Train also had a big leaping clothesline off the middle buckle that was a heavyweight wrestling dream. The rest of this has good brawling and some upper class bumps into the ringside cage, so this was still a win even though I wanted more.

MD: They announce Ice Train as choo choo Ice Train, so that was appreciated. Smisl is a guy I've never seen before and his hat will stick with me more than his seemingly fine work. Rambo was both over and pretty well protected in the match. He got to toss everyone on the other side into the cage to open the match. He was never really the guy in peril and it was only the numbers game that let Finlay's side keep the advantage. That sort of thing. I'm sort of curious to see more Cannonball Grizzly here. For a guy the fans wanted to love, News was problematic at best in 91-92. He had a lot more presence here. Finlay was mainly on the outside throwing violence around when some poor fool got too close to him. He did get to hit a couple of awesome ballistic shoulder blocks in the corner though. The finish was very weird with Ice Train getting his stuff in and Rambo having to basically shout at him to get him to run across the ring to eat a cheapshot from the apron.


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